No Propaganda, Estel? Lets just take your posts outta this thread as an example.
3. The regulations about borders of the given zone are accepted only by Norway. Other countries, including Russia, did not sign agreements on the given territory wich is by default the international waters.
4. As we know, intercepting the ship in the international waters is piracy.
5. If our authorities will arrest those inspectors they will go to court on charge in a piracy.
Propaganda.
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Forgot to say. USA don't accept guarding zone too.
Propaganda.
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Looks like you don't see difference between "economical zone" and "fishguarding zone". If you don't know, these things are different. The trawler was in "fishguarding zone".
And tell me Estel.. is it not Norway that does the fishguarding, to protect the area from illegal fishing procedures?
Propaganda.
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There is nothing about our trawler made something unlawful.
Propaganda. (i'm being kind. looks like a bald faced lie to me)
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(From Boroda) The radiogram from Elektron to Arctic Sea Administration said that Norwegians are dropping fire-bombs on the trowler, point guns at it, and that in case they will open fire - captain will try to ram them, and the crew will be rescued by another trowler that follows Elektron. They also say they make photos of attacks.
I guess Boroda’s a bit better at propaganda than you are. Really Estel, you must do better to come up to this level of entertainment.
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Be glad, you are not norway sailor from norway trawler wich don't get 120mm holes in hull, when they are fishing in our economy zone. Usually they are dropping fish and running away to Norway territory. But you gave us a good learning. Now we will shoot them.
Propaganda. Boastful, but still..
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When trawler began manuevering to establish course into Russian territory, inspectors was offered to leave the ship. But they denied it. They said that they have an order to stay on the ship. After that captain informed them again, that the trawler is headed to Murmansk. But inspectors denied again.
Propaganda.
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Another part of this agreement was about cooperated duty of our border guard ships in the region. For example, norway ships can be under the protection of russian border ships and vice versa. But here began strange situations, when our ship is on duty, Norway coast guard is not present in the region and all trawlers, russian and norway are feeling ok. Just our ship is living area, Norway coast guard beginning unlawful arrests and punishments.
I doubt seriously the Norwegians consider themselves ‘protected’ by anything flying a Russian flag. And vice versa.
Propaganda.
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No. They did it. They arrested the ship. Withdrawn all journals and personal documents. Also withdrawn flag certificate. And tryed to tow the trawler Norvegian port. But the cable was torn.
She was never under tow, no documents were removed from the vessel.
Propaganda.
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Norwegian plane tryed to stop "Elektron" by droping the net while overflying. But missed and catched another trawler "Arlashkin". "Arlashkin" lost the speed. The rescue ship "Purga" is headed to "Arlashkin" now. As was said by Border authorities, "Elektron" can achieve border at 0100am Oct 19.
Now, this is ALMOST as good as Boroda’s Propaganda. Better, but still..
Propaganda.
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The captain of trawler Arlashkin is declaring that ship and crew is in danger. As it known, norwegian plane dropped "delt" the net onto the Elektron but missed and catched Arlashkin. Trawler lost the speed. The main engine is stopped. The weather is nord-west 9, wave 4-6 meters. Wind 25-28 m/sec. The Mount Kent trawler wich is near Arlashkin can not evacuate the crew due to weather. Yea guys. You are the best. Catched wrong ship and leaved her without help in the storm.
No better, really.
Just more of the same… PROPAGANDA.
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(from Boroda) Russian Federation is a direct successor of the Soviet Union, and follows all the treaties and obligations accepted by the USSR.
JFYI, Russian Federation payed the debts made by Russian Empire, not only USSR, and we are a permanent member of UN SC, etc.
You see, Boroda is the Master.. one line of truth, always followed by the propaganda lie.
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Maybe because all this bad smealing story wasn't true? And there wasn't any hostages. And maybe there were only inspectors impudent from impunity.
Poor try.
Propaganda.
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In 1947 USSR denied an offer to divide Border Guarding duty and Administration duty between Norway and USSR. So Norway did it all alone. Was it really hard work to establish these duties alone? Sure, you must understand, that USSR was ruined after the war. And didn't have money, personnel or anybody else to divide this work with Norway. How do you think, could this denying be a way to the problem of 1951 and when later, Norway issued problems for our fishers?
Circular logic mixed with Propaganda.
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But I remember. Always when you are headed to the truth (I don't mean you personally this time) wich is not good for you, there is beginning flame about propaganda and etc. Can I remind you a topic about KAL007, where was proved that USA shooted down the civilian planes with passengers more times even any country in the world. Do you remember what happened than? Why always when you see facts that don't correlate with your opinion of how-should-facts-be-because-I-seen-it-on-TV the discussion is dropping to usual flame with "propaganda" and "communists"?
This ones my favorite. A propaganda re-direct of propaganda to redirect responsibility for….
..Propaganda.
Thanks for playing Estel!
