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Offline Stang

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« Reply #135 on: October 26, 2005, 08:08:39 PM »
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« Reply #136 on: October 26, 2005, 08:09:54 PM »
"Seriously if you guys want uniterupted furballing go to the DA.There was this thing in the DA not too long ago"

play offline if you wanna toolshed and bomb...not the same is it?

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« Reply #137 on: October 26, 2005, 08:19:43 PM »
HTC requires that each map has an area surrounded by 40,000 foot mountains, it only has three bases (one for each side), The bases allow you to only up fighters, all ordinance is disabled and no GVs. In addition, you make the ack über TM deadly and accurate to discourage vulching/de-acking. Furthermore, you make the FHs indestructable. Clear the areas of trees, make it a flat as possible, put the bases no more that 1 sector apart and the whole area no bigger the two sectors by two sectors. Finally, you make is so these three fields are not included in the count concerning winning the war.

All 3 fields in 1 sector at 5k.... nice.

If I made the area, there would be trees everywhere to keep people from ditching. You get shot up, the other guy gets his kill.

You're almost there grasshopper. Although, a true furballer does not care about getting "the kill" as long as the other guy is taken out of the fight. There is no finer kill than a manuver kill. The trees suck and are only a nusiance to the furballer as they take away from the fight.

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« Reply #138 on: October 26, 2005, 09:08:19 PM »
Vudak I wasnt saying thats how most cv are sunk...most seem to be sunk by suicide P47s and B26s from what Ive seen. But I needed to think up a challenge that the buffers may have a slight edge on from bombing so much, over the furballers.  I thought that sufficed.

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« Reply #139 on: October 26, 2005, 09:16:41 PM »
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Vudak I wasnt saying thats how most cv are sunk...most seem to be sunk by suicide P47s and B26s from what Ive seen. But I needed to think up a challenge that the buffers may have a slight edge on from bombing so much, over the furballers.  I thought that sufficed.



Well heck, they sure got me there, I don't even know how to get a bomber up that high in the first place :D

It was an interesting competition idea though.  I was wondering, for the fighter portion, were you thinking "team vs. team" or drawing a name out of a hat from each group and having them go at it best out of 5 individually?
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« Reply #140 on: October 26, 2005, 09:27:05 PM »
Yes out of a hat.  Draw the opponent for your match out of a hat..best of 3, 5 whatever. Decide beforehand what the basic setup would be, alt etc.

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« Reply #141 on: October 26, 2005, 11:00:30 PM »
I see a number of posts trying to change the subject of the argument so they can defend against the accusation that base capture is somehow unethical. This is beside the point.

The problem has always been that the strat dweebs want to feel useful, and the only way they feel like bombing targets makes a difference is if they bomb the ones that the most people are reliant on. A better strat system could alieviate this, perhaps.

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« Reply #142 on: October 27, 2005, 12:53:30 AM »
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The way some of these virtual pilots talk on these boards about there skills and owning this person and that person the plane set wouldn't be a problem for them.The CT staff does a wonderful job at keeping the planeset
as equal as possible.

As far as vulching,this will happen no matter what arena you are in.You just have to be smart enough not too take off from a field being vulched.


Well first of all, you are quoting me, and when do you find me on the board bragging about my skills and owning this person or that person????

For me plane set does matter.  I don’t like Zeke or most of the Japanese kee rap, they don’t fit my flying style.  They may fit your style, and you may be able to hand me my butt flying your Japanese ride of choice, but that doesn’t mean they fit me.

I really don’t like the German junk either, but that is what I mainly fly...  Mostly 109s; the 190s  (even with the porked AH FM)  are way too amazing to fly regularly.

Spits are way to easy to fly, but have their purpose, just too easy... the P51D is just a monster, the PonyB has guns that suck (it would be perked if it had cannons), the P47’s don’t seem to be something I can fly.

I hate seeing my name landing kills in s LA, it’s down right embarrassing, but I use them now and then when we get really hammered.

I am now  stuck with the 109’s and the F4U-1, both are junkers, but they will get you kills and take you home most of the time if you fly smart.  Get stupid in them, and get dead quick, no run-a-way like a LA, or Pony or Dora.

Bombing is like watching a golf match on tv.

GV’s at best suck although I get in a Flack Panzie at a base being vulched just for spite.

So for me planeset matters…  

And for me the CT sucks.  I remember being in there and having to fly Zekes against F4U’s and F6F’s.  Balance planeset my butt.  And getting gang banged in the CT is just like getting gang banged in the MA, just fewer people.  For you the CT may be Nirvana here on earth, so go there and have fun, I wish you well.

But don’t get on the BBS and tell me that I say I “own” this game, or think I’m some uber pilot; my kill stats will quickly prove otherwise.  I can do pretty good one on one, but I am no where near the best.  Ask anyone who’s kicked my butt lately.

I just want to furball, and I want to do it in something other than a Spit or a LA7.

I am also getting sick of the toolshedders in the MA.

Maybe it's time to take a break from this game.
« Last Edit: October 27, 2005, 12:59:15 AM by AKFokerFoder+ »

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« Reply #143 on: October 27, 2005, 02:03:16 AM »
You dont have to go all Andey Rooney on me AKfoker.

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And for me the CT sucks. I remember being in there and having to fly Zekes against F4U’s and F6F’s. Balance planeset my butt. And getting gang banged in the CT is just like getting gang banged in the MA, just fewer people. For you the CT may be Nirvana here on earth, so go there and have fun, I wish you well.


I hate jap planes as much as the next American.In the right hands they can be a deadly plane.


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But don’t get on the BBS and tell me that I say I “own” this game, or think I’m some uber pilot; my kill stats will quickly prove otherwise. I can do pretty good one on one, but I am no where near the best. Ask anyone who’s kicked my butt lately


who said it was all about you?


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GV’s at best suck although I get in a Flack Panzie at a base being vulched just for spite.


Good keep it up i love shootin flak-panzers in my tiger while i Rape and pillage a base.


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I really don’t like the German junk either,


Seems you wouldnt like any planes at all.

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Maybe it's time to take a break from this game


Maybe your sorta right on that one,but instead focus your attention else where like the TA,maybe help out a seal,sorry noob and pass forward some of what you know.Maybe even while you are in the TA try out some of the planes that are normally hard for you too fly but yet others hand you your prettythang  in.


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Well first of all, you are quoting me, and when do you find me on the board bragging about my skills and owning this person or that person????


I didnt really mention any names on that post but im glad you stepped up to the plate and was honest.I hope that i have quoted you enough times this post so that you dont feel left out in the dark,kinda like the rest of us are.

Thank You and good day!

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« Reply #144 on: October 27, 2005, 07:25:01 AM »
Wow any of your guys last name Tolstoy?? You know this subject has really played itself out. Not to intentially hijack the thread.........but to hijack the thread. How about what are your favorite rides for Furballin/Toolshedding. Because when I get done furballing, the wife likes to put the tools back in the shed!:rofl
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« Reply #145 on: October 27, 2005, 07:38:03 AM »
If anyone misunderstood my last post I was referencing my "Flight stick"
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« Reply #146 on: October 27, 2005, 08:18:44 AM »
As I've said in another thread. the Furball is only a part of the evolution of the base capture attempt

"I've yet to see anywhere that a furball was called for a particular spot on the map.
Usualy what happens is someone tries to hit or capture a base. A few defenders up, then more attackers arrive, then more defenders and thus your furball is born.

A furball is what happens when an attack meets a stubborn defence and more and more people on both sides start to jump in and a stalemate develops. Often after someone has porked the troops on both sides.
Eventually one side gets the advantage over the other and things start breaking down. the ammo,VH's and FHs go down and the feild gets captured.

Then it all starts all over again someplace else

Furballers and landgrabbers can not only co exist but thrive together.
Furballers would make the best feild defence.
See that blob headed to that feid on the map. Head for it and defend that feild. Have a few people counter attack the opposing feild as well to also draw opposing forces to that feild for defence pretty soon each side will be upping planes to defend their feild and there you have it. a furball.

When a base is captured only the scenery changes. the furball moves to another location and starts anew."

But this nonsence of "the landgrabbers ruined the furball" is bunk
It probably was never a dedicated furball to begin with.
It just kinda happned that way.

Now maybe many moons ago there was no landgrab. there was only the furball. But thats the way it  "Was" and not the way it is now.

The "Furball" as I said before now is nothing more then part of the evolution of the feild capture attepmt. And like it or not. How long it goes on is dependant on how much your williing to defend a base and what your willing to do to accomplish that.
But rest assured at some point one side or the other is goig to gain the upped hand and either your feild will be captured, or the other sides feild will be captured  and then a new furball will have to be created someplace else.
And there is no reason for it not to. Simply move to the next base back and re up and fight the group thats headed into that base. Usually when one base is captured people start upping to go and try to take the next base or to try to recapture the base that was just taken.
The formula for a furball is still there. The only thing that has changed is the scenery.
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« Reply #147 on: October 27, 2005, 08:18:45 AM »
Uberhun nobody needs a roadmap......

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« Reply #148 on: October 27, 2005, 08:28:44 AM »
udderhun.... yes, I am saying that the toolshed killing mouse weilders are of no use to the furballers...  they are in fact leeches... every aspect of their game depends on fighter planes..  A game of nothing but gv's and fluffs would last about a day.

If the furballers never seen another mouse powered fluff they would have an improved leech free existance.   The mouse weilders need to affect the fighters game.   the fighters don't need to affect the mouse weilders game.

shubie wants the fighters to spend days climbing up to his fluffs so that they can face a big fat stupid target who's only "skill" is a god like view and the control of 30 guns by one guy... It is no fun either way... it is no fun to let the fluffs kill the fight and even less fun to stop em.

When a cv get's close to a fight... the furballers go to the cv...not because they want to capture some field but because it is the closest fight around... I know this is a difficult concept for the anal retentive mouse wielders but...

The furballers do it to get into the fight quickly...  when the mouse weilders say "well... if you want to keep the cv then defend it"  that is like saying "if you want to have fun.... you have to smack yourself on the toes with a hammer a bunch of times while your buddy screws your old lady.

Why even go to the cv if you can't get the benifiet of the close/quicker action?   what kind of waste of a human being would circle around at alt trying to stop fat, skilless targets from bombing the CV while allhis friends were down there having a great time?  he would have to either be really stupid... a saint... or a mouse wielder himself.

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« Reply #149 on: October 27, 2005, 08:33:09 AM »
I'm amazed that this stupid thread is still going. You solve anything yet?