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Offline Booz

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« Reply #105 on: October 28, 2005, 10:26:03 PM »
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« Reply #106 on: October 28, 2005, 10:34:55 PM »
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less?

Yes, less.... since 'woman's husband will' can be interpreted differently from a person to person.

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« Reply #107 on: October 28, 2005, 10:42:30 PM »
Now THAT is justice
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« Reply #108 on: October 28, 2005, 11:07:13 PM »
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« Reply #109 on: October 28, 2005, 11:17:53 PM »
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Actually, I think the core issue is that when it comes right down to it, people are selfish.  Selfish, right down to the point of wanting everyone else to live how they think they should live, just so the world can look and feel exactly how they want it to.


That's interesting, in a selfish way.

I don't want to force anyone to live like I do or believe what I do, as long as they do not kill another human life and obey the laws of our society.

A fetus is a human life and it is protected under law as a human life, except if the mother wants to kill it, and that's the problem I have. That law needs to be 100% consistant one way or the other.
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« Reply #110 on: October 28, 2005, 11:37:00 PM »
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That's interesting, in a selfish way.

I don't want to force anyone to live like I do or believe what I do, as long as they do not kill another human life and obey the laws of our society.

A fetus is a human life and it is protected under law as a human life, except if the mother wants to kill it, and that's the problem I have. That law needs to be 100% consistant one way or the other.


so if the law were changed so that a Fetus wasnt considered a human life untill it was born. You would be ok with that?

the only reason the law is as it currently is. Is to provide the government with another charge that can be filed against a criminal.

Actually I remember hearing a long time ago that long ago it was legal for a parent to kill their child.
And that is where the saying came from "I brought you into this world I can take you out of it"

Dunno for sure if its true or not, but it makes for an interesting story
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« Reply #111 on: October 28, 2005, 11:38:12 PM »
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so if the law were changed so that a Fetus wasnt considered a human life untill it was born. You would be ok with that?

the only reason the law is as it currently is. Is to provide the government with another charge that can be filed against a criminal.

Actually I remember hearing a long time ago that long ago it was legal for a parent to kill their child.
And that is where the saying came from "I brought you into this world I can take you out of it"

Dunno for sure if its true or not, but it makes for an interesting story


and some say my hypothetical posts are to the extreme  :huh
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« Reply #112 on: October 28, 2005, 11:45:09 PM »
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how old are you sir?
do you have kids? grandchildren?
Has someone close to you been involved with an abortion?

just wondering what you base your opinion,  feel free not to answer
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« Reply #113 on: October 28, 2005, 11:52:43 PM »
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sandie....black and white... no one has the right to kill an innocent human being who is no threat to them.


So if a woman is raped she should be forced to carry the baby?
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« Reply #114 on: October 28, 2005, 11:56:56 PM »
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So if a woman is raped she should be forced to carry the baby?


this argument is so lame ... don't forget incest.
ask yourself;
how many rapes/incest result in pregnacy?
of those, what number chooses to abort rather than say give up for adoption?
what percent of total abortions done, are done to kill a rape/incest baby?
is that percentage even a whole number?
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« Reply #115 on: October 28, 2005, 11:58:44 PM »
kinda silly to dress it up in different scenarios.

The base issue of who's in control of your own personal destiny renders any further question of circumstance moot.
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« Reply #116 on: October 29, 2005, 12:54:12 AM »
why do people have such a hard time with this issue?

Abortion in the united states is lawful infanticide.  LAWFUL murder.  **** happens.  Apparently the Supremes decided it has something to do with privacy as guaranteed in the constitution.  Actually its the worst most dehumanizing piece of judicial legislation ever conceived on planet earth and in my estimation lowers the United States to the level of a 3rd class nation.  But it is the law, so....ABORT!!!   ABORT!!!   ABORT!!!


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« Reply #117 on: October 29, 2005, 01:21:59 AM »
This pissing contest is getting pathetic. Some of the replies in this thread remind me why I lose faith in the human race every day.
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« Reply #118 on: October 29, 2005, 01:25:23 AM »
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I think the rights of the host trump the rights of the parasite.


So you think it's a right to murder someone?  Oh, I'm sorry.  Abort an unwanted fetus?


You forget, that the moment an unwilling Fetus will be killed, it becomes a PUBLIC issue.  There is nothing private about it.

Suicide, on the other hand, is a different matter.  I have no problem if a Terminal or non Terminal person wants to kill himself.  


But how is it that we can decide to kill or not kill those who have no say in the matter?

Your logic is flawed and contradictory.  Even me being in an incredibly drunk state can pick it out from a mile away.
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« Reply #119 on: October 29, 2005, 01:37:53 AM »
yes, a child is a parasite.  Oh wait.....a child is not a baby.....oh wait, a baby is not a fetus...oh wait, a fetus is not a human being.

Its simple really.

I support abortion.  Its an unavoidable reality, but like any form of lawful homicide (self defense, capitol punishment) it MUST BE STRICTLY REGULATED by LAW.
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