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Offline Sandman

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« Reply #75 on: November 22, 2005, 06:25:21 PM »
Terrorism is a tool. It's not an ideology. Declaring a war on terrorism and terrorists is a silly as declaring a war on snipers.

Call it what it is, Rip. The war on radical Islam.

Just keep in mind that radical Islamists aren't the only people on this planet that have used or will continue to use this particular tool of war.
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« Reply #76 on: November 22, 2005, 06:27:49 PM »
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Terrorism is a tool. It's not an ideology. Declaring a war on terrorism and terrorists is a silly as declaring a war on snipers.

Call it what it is, Rip. The war on radical Islam.

Just keep in mind that radical Islamists aren't the only people on this planet that have used or will continue to use this particular tool of war.


So whats your plan for dealing with radical Islam?

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« Reply #77 on: November 22, 2005, 06:30:25 PM »
You've missed the point.
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« Reply #78 on: November 22, 2005, 06:41:00 PM »
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You've missed the point.


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Typical. You can't argue the point.


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« Reply #79 on: November 22, 2005, 07:29:15 PM »
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Rude, just to be sure you understand.. I'm not advocating pacifisim. I just don't want this to continue the way it's going.. I want those bastads dead, ASAP; and I'm sick of the partisan sniping for political gain. I'm sick of under-equipped, under supported troops grinding out 24 hour a day 1 year tours while their Iraqi counterparts are coddled and babied. I'm sick of Sheehan and her ilk.

I do NOT want a pull-out. I want a massive national commitment to the cause and the troops, I want the democrats to get with the program, I want the, military expanded massively, I want the commerical and political intrests suborned to the National Goal.. WIN the War on Terror.

No more half-assed measures. Lets get it done or get the hell out. There is no middle ground, because we cannot win from the middle ground.


You're looking for something that ain't gonna happen in this day and age unless we suffer something far worse than 11 September 2001. It will take far more than what we've already suffered to truly unite this nation.

Worse yet, we can't quit without suffering the aforementioned tragedy as a direct result of quitting.

The assumption that bin Laden is the source of all this is false and baseless. He is, or maybe was, a figurehead, he's no longer an effective leader. The same thing will become of Zaqwari. Sure, a nice public execution or assassination of the two would be nice, and somewhat satisfying. But it's a group of people, not one.
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« Reply #80 on: November 22, 2005, 10:50:36 PM »
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Typical. You can't argue the point.


You want me to argue your point?

I said the war on terrorism is not winnable. You post a cartoon that isn't about the war on terrorism. It's about the war on radical islam. Then, you want me to share a plan for dealing with radical Islam.

Try again.
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« Reply #81 on: November 22, 2005, 10:55:46 PM »
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Nash, to have you agree with me makes me extremely uncomfortable.

Makes me wonder where I blew it.



What Nash said is nothing new. Many of us have been saying it from the beginning..
We said more troops. But were told we didnt know what we were talking about.
Some military leaders were given early retirement for mentioning MORE TROOPS.

And since our ideas didnt follow the admin and rep talking points exactly we have been shouted down.
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« Reply #82 on: November 22, 2005, 11:06:40 PM »
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You want me to argue your point?

I said the war on terrorism is not winnable. You post a cartoon that isn't about the war on terrorism. It's about the war on radical islam. Then, you want me to share a plan for dealing with radical Islam.

Try again.


War on Terror and Radical Islam go pretty much hand in hand now a days.  You really don't see to much of one with out the other.

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« Reply #83 on: November 22, 2005, 11:13:26 PM »
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War on Terror and Radical Islam go pretty much hand in hand now a days.  You really don't see to much of one with out the other.


That's only because it's fashionable to ignore everything but Iraq.

http://library.nps.navy.mil/home/tgp/tgpndx.htm
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« Reply #84 on: November 22, 2005, 11:18:55 PM »
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That's only because it's fashionable to ignore everything but Iraq.

http://library.nps.navy.mil/home/tgp/tgpndx.htm


"Fashionable to ignore everthing else"  You mean the MEDIA doesn't report everything??????

most of those involve some sort of Allah or another.  This kinda reminds me of the time Bush was pushing for missle deffense and all we heard from the left was "we weren't attacked with missles" ;)

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« Reply #85 on: November 22, 2005, 11:26:35 PM »
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"Fashionable to ignore everthing else"  You mean the MEDIA doesn't report everything??????


Of course not.

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most of those involve some sort of Allah or another.  This kinda reminds me of the time Bush was pushing for missle deffense and all we heard from the left was "we weren't attacked with missles" ;)


...and we we're right. ;)

But, back on topic. the real question is... "Can the U.S. be a stabilizing factor in the Middle-East?"

I truly doubt it.
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« Reply #86 on: November 23, 2005, 12:22:32 AM »
But, back on topic. the real question is... "Can the U.S. be a stabilizing factor in the Middle-East?"
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after the radiation subsides we will be the only factor in the middle east.
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« Reply #87 on: November 23, 2005, 12:48:25 AM »
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But, back on topic. the real question is... "Can the U.S. be a stabilizing factor in the Middle-East?"
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after the radiation subsides we will be the only factor in the middle east.


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« Reply #88 on: November 23, 2005, 01:02:18 AM »
Future holds many uncertanties. We'll wait to see what happens then.

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« Reply #89 on: November 23, 2005, 01:02:59 AM »
one good way to find out.....
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