Author Topic: Kerry's Latest Comments (Read 3082 times)

Toad · « **Reply #120 on:** December 08, 2005, 02:42:17 PM »

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Originally posted by Sakai
Cool!

No one in the world has ever tried to rationalize that intervention blunder before, not even Reagan's closest crony apologists, let us know what you think OK?

Sakai

I think you should tell us all that you're cool with more than seven hundred Palestinian women, children, and men being executed in those camps.

I think you should tell us that you think a collective, world-wide "tsk, tsk" should have covered the response.

That's what I think, because then I'd know what you think. Right now, I have no idea what you think now about the murders nor do I know what you thought then about the murders.

Just what do you think should have been done?

storch · « **Reply #121 on:** December 09, 2005, 07:48:40 AM »

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Originally posted by Gunslinger
WRONG!!!!!

Go to northern Iraq and you will see peacfull cities just like anywere else. There's a city up there were American troops go regularly for supply runs. They walk the streets freely with out body armor. The main reason for this is those people won't put up with the terrorists and wont become victoms. The terrorists know this and refuse to operate there. I'll get back to ya with the name of the city later.

GS, the cities in northern iraq that are in what would be considered Kurdistan are kirkuk, sulimaniyah, irbil and mosul. IIRC they are under the control of the Kurdish Regional Government. keep in mind that the kurds though moslem are a distinctive indo-european people and not arab.

midnight Target · « **Reply #122 on:** December 09, 2005, 08:31:28 AM »

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Originally posted by storch
keep in mind that the kurds though moslem are a distinctive indo-european people and not arab.

And this is significant because?

Sakai · « **Reply #123 on:** December 09, 2005, 09:08:28 AM »

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Originally posted by Toad
I think you should tell us all that you're cool with more than seven hundred Palestinian women, children, and men being executed in those camps.

I think you should tell us that you think a collective, world-wide "tsk, tsk" should have covered the response.

That's what I think, because then I'd know what you think. Right now, I have no idea what you think now about the murders nor do I know what you thought then about the murders.

Just what do you think should have been done?

No, I think you should explain how it was that Reagan, who stepped in to save the Christian factions, is somehow there to save the Sabra and Chatila camps?

You do know who was murdered there and by whom correct?

And you are saying you understand when and why we engaged there as well?

Did our Allies assist by getting the armed men out of that place, the only people there who could fight back, prior to the massacre?

I was in Athens in 1982 with a red cross pass to be a liitter carrier in Beirut, don't tell me you know more about this then I do about who to sympathize and care for my friend. I did not see you there volunteering to help.

Go ahead, explain yourself and Ronnie's gravest blunder, I'll listen.

Sakai

Gunslinger · « **Reply #124 on:** December 09, 2005, 09:39:41 AM »

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Originally posted by storch
GS, the cities in northern iraq that are in what would be considered Kurdistan are kirkuk, sulimaniyah, irbil and mosul. IIRC they are under the control of the Kurdish Regional Government. keep in mind that the kurds though moslem are a distinctive indo-european people and not arab.

They are still in Iraq and you can still walk safely through them. One day god willing Bagdad will be the same.

Sakai · « **Reply #125 on:** December 09, 2005, 10:19:26 AM »

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Originally posted by Gunslinger
They are still in Iraq and you can still walk safely through them. One day god willing Bagdad will be the same.

The confusion of Kurdish regions as indicative of what "we" accomplished is a sure sign that some folks don't really know anything at all about what is occurring over there.

This kind of belief is remarkable given that so much is at stake.

I have to ask also:

If pulling anyone out of Iraq, and even talking about it, is so incredibly dangerous, why is the GOP senate, Condi Rice, and Rumsfeld all starting to hint at dropping troops prior to the next congressional elections?

Sakai

Gunslinger · « **Reply #126 on:** December 09, 2005, 10:27:06 AM »

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Originally posted by Sakai
The confusion of Kurdish regions as indicative of what "we" accomplished is a sure sign that some folks don't really know anything at all about what is occurring over there.

This kind of belief is remarkable given that so much is at stake.

I have to ask also:

If pulling anyone out of Iraq, and even talking about it, is so incredibly dangerous, why is the GOP senate, Condi Rice, and Rumsfeld all starting to hint at dropping troops prior to the next congressional elections?

Sakai

You assume too much. I never said that "WE" accomplished it, although we had a major impact on it. The only thing that "we" did was that "we" removed Sadam so they are no longer persacuted by him. Other than that I explained it a few threads up.

As far as GOP dropping hints. I think it's funny that liberals want it both ways. They want the troops out and the war to be lost and criticise about that, then when the admin gives hints of troop reductions it's more criticism. The administration has said several times that troop levels are determined by the field commanders needs (wich is the way it should be). I would assume that they should drop after the elections due to the progress of the ING/IP and that they were lower prior to the elections and then raised for them.

Shamus · « **Reply #127 on:** December 09, 2005, 02:13:49 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
So, you are saying that Horowitz was never a real lefty just some... what? right winng leninist? That is beyond silly... so left he was right? did you read "radical son"? It explains pretty much what he was and why he isn't anymore. The lies and violence of the left is what made him leave the liberal cause.

lazs

I guess that would make Horowitz a flip-flopper.

shamus

Toad · « **Reply #128 on:** December 09, 2005, 09:02:07 PM »

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Originally posted by Sakai
No, I think you should explain how it was that Reagan, who stepped in to save the Christian factions, is somehow there to save the Sabra and Chatila camps?

You are aware that when the Israelis moved into West Beirut on 9/15, Reagan called for Israeli withdrawal as did the U.N. Security Council?

It was after that the masscre occurred with worldwide condemnation. It was Reagan that announced a new Multi-National Force along with the French and Italians. You do know the whys and wherefores of the first MNF Reagan supported with Marines, right?

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Originally posted by Sakai
You do know who was murdered there and by whom correct?

Yep, I do. Do you? Do you know who requested a new MNF, right?

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Originally posted by Sakai
And you are saying you understand when and why we engaged there as well?

I'm saying I know the sequence of events.

I'm asking YOU to answer a simple direct question: What do YOU think should have been done when the Maronites slaughtered them while the Israelis stood by surrounding the camps and did nothing?

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Originally posted by Sakai
Did our Allies assist by getting the armed men out of that place, the only people there who could fight back, prior to the massacre?

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Beirut was under Israeli siege when the deal to remove Arafat and his PLO fighters was struck. This deal was done after the U.N. Security Council, the US included, demanded a cease-fire and votged to censure Israel. Are you saying it would have been far better to let the Israeli siege continue than to attempt to resolve the situation? You're saying it was wrong to negotitate and end to the siege?

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Originally posted by Sakai
I was in Athens in 1982 with a red cross pass to be a liitter carrier in Beirut, don't tell me you know more about this then I do about who to sympathize and care for my friend. I did not see you there volunteering to help.

Then you are in the perfect position to display your omniscence and tell us all what should have been done. Go ahead.

I wasn't in Athens, that's true; I was with Mother Teresa at that time.

lazs2 · « **Reply #129 on:** December 10, 2005, 09:53:37 AM »

saki is a typical liberal.... he has no answers but that doesn't stop the hate.

lazs

Sixpence · « **Reply #130 on:** December 10, 2005, 10:13:34 AM »

lol, wow, a few comments by Kerry and all hell broke loose, carry on!

Gunslinger · « **Reply #131 on:** December 10, 2005, 11:49:46 AM »

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Originally posted by Sixpence
lol, wow, a few comments by Kerry and all hell broke loose, carry on!

It's not just Kerry. The democrats are trying to get a unified policy on Iraq. Some in the party that have an abundance of common sense feel that they shouldn't be playing political games. While others such as Dean Kerry Pelosi ect think that what they do and say in reguards to on going military operations has no effect what so ever.

Meanwhile the dems are split. That can't get behind Dean, the DNC Chairman, yet there base being the moonbat anti-war protester isn't going to let them slide if they don't pander to them.

http://www.gop.com/Media/120905.wmv

Holden McGroin · « **Reply #132 on:** December 10, 2005, 01:09:27 PM »

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Originally posted by Gunslinger
Meanwhile the dems are split.

Some things are eternal.

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I belong to no organized political party... I am a Democrat
---Will Rogers

T0J0 · « **Reply #133 on:** December 10, 2005, 01:24:49 PM »

Hard to argue with defeatocrats, they surrendered before the war even started so its only fitting that they continue to wave the white flag while we finish what we started.

Red Tail 444 · « **Reply #134 on:** December 10, 2005, 02:10:48 PM »

Every time I listen to a rant from some of the nutjobs on this thread talking about Kerry or some other "liberal," I can't help but imagine...

http://SecretAgentSkeeter.yafro.com/photo/10174305