Author Topic: could USSR have been saved? (mature audiences only) (Read 6132 times)

Russian · « **Reply #180 on:** December 17, 2005, 07:19:56 PM »

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Originally posted by detch01
show up in the middle of the night to arrest you.

You do realize that after Stalin’s death, there was no more disappearing? Oh, wait! You do not since you’ve been watching TV for ‘educational’ purposes.

Russian · « **Reply #181 on:** December 17, 2005, 07:27:55 PM »

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Originally posted by mietla

a little piece of a collective run the state and waiting for the scraps of refuse to fall in your hungry mouth

I don’t know about Poland, but in Russia no one ‘collects’ anything for free. Other than a house and medical care, everything else is earned. Can you educate me of otherwise?

mietla · « **Reply #182 on:** December 17, 2005, 07:38:56 PM »

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Originally posted by Russian
I don’t know about Poland, but in Russia no one ‘collects’ anything for free. Other than a house and medical care, everything else is earned. Can you educate me of otherwise?

Do I really have to say anything after that?

You just have no concept of a property, now do you? Remember that free education by the state of course is a fundamental "right" of each approved citizen.

"Just what the world (everything outside of my body) owes me?"

ask yourself that.

You see, I was "free" educated just like you were. Obviously, I wasn't as good of a student as you were I guess.

Russian · « **Reply #183 on:** December 17, 2005, 08:03:54 PM »

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Originally posted by mietla

Remember that free education by the state of course is a fundamental "right" of each approved citizen.

That is not an explanation. In US, high school is free, just as in Russia. (Is that a bad thing?) Except in Russia if you do not earn high grades, you will not get any higher education, and PTU (ÏÒÓ) does not count as higher education. But in States, you wave little many and any college/university will accept you. So who actually ‘earns’ education?

mietla · « **Reply #184 on:** December 17, 2005, 09:04:03 PM »

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Originally posted by Russian
That is not an explanation. In US, high school is free, just as in Russia. (Is that a bad thing?) Except in Russia if you do not earn high grades, you will not get any higher education, and PTU (ÏÒÓ) does not count as higher education. But in States, you wave little many and any college/university will accept you. So who actually ‘earns’ education?

I was hoping you ( or the other "Soviet" guys) ask this. Yes it is wrong. US started on great foundation, but unfortunately the commies are nibbling on it for decades now. What we have left in the good'n Old USA is a socialism. Slow, I grant you that, but nore and more Americans catch the Boroda's "right to food and all the rest of the goodies" bacillus.

Free education (with a curriculum chosen by the parent), have a very mild problem with it.

A mandatory, government provided (paid by the taxes extorted from the citizens) and government controlled curriculum, absolutely not.

mietla · « **Reply #185 on:** December 17, 2005, 09:09:19 PM »

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Originally posted by Russian
So who actually ‘earns’ education?

Those who can absorb it, and take advantage of it. Force feeding a moron precious knowledge he can't possibly comprehend and at the same time denying a bright kid an access to it because of some f*ng "do gooder , egalitarian nonsense mentality" gov regulation is a crime.

mietla · « **Reply #186 on:** December 17, 2005, 09:29:36 PM »

And Vad,

My daugthers will never, ever go hungry unless the dudes like Boroda and you are effective enough to convice the good US folks that freedom sucks, and that the goverment is the source of all the goodies and food as well.

With all due respect, stay where you feel comfortable. Why screw Canada. They are screwed enough without imported commie lovers. My sister's family lives there, I know

mietla · « **Reply #187 on:** December 17, 2005, 09:30:32 PM »

Man, did I kill this thread?

Sorry guys, I'll never post again.

Suave · « **Reply #188 on:** December 17, 2005, 09:53:46 PM »

One big difference between the KGB and free countries' law enforcement agencies. The KGB wasn't held accountable to the people. In soviet russia, government tells you what to do.

NUKE · « **Reply #189 on:** December 17, 2005, 10:40:42 PM »

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Originally posted by mietla
And Vad,

My daugthers will never, ever go hungry unless the dudes like Boroda and you are effective enough to convice the good US folks that freedom sucks, and that the goverment is the source of all the goodies and food as well.

With all due respect, stay where you feel comfortable. Why screw Canada. They are screwed enough without imported commie lovers. My sister's family lives there, I know

The USA has always had an over abundence of whatever we needed, the USSR and Russia have always been left wanting.

Our system was and is better, just a fact. Boroda is like a clown.

NUKE · « **Reply #190 on:** December 17, 2005, 10:44:10 PM »

The USSR controlled an area much larger, and with more resources than the US ever had, yet they went tits up.

Israel turned a piece of crap land into an oasis.

Free people will produce, oppressed people will just take whatever is given to them.......like sheep.

Vad · « **Reply #191 on:** December 18, 2005, 01:02:42 AM »

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Originally posted by mietla
Man, did I kill this thread?

Sorry guys, I'll never post again.

Yes, you did, but don't worry.

We will be waiting for somebody who are intelligible enough to continue talk about topick of this thread. Looks like it will take a lot of time but we are patient.

Suave · « **Reply #192 on:** December 18, 2005, 01:08:18 AM »

Insults sail when logic does fail.

I busted a ryhme

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #193 on:** December 18, 2005, 01:31:34 AM »

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Originally posted by Vad
ok, something intelligible.

I just want to remind you that I have been living in Canada since 1999, and I am Canadian citizen, so I know what I'm talking about. Here, in America, we have absolutelly the same situation but role of strong charismatics leader plays not your President or Prime Minister but your employer. You have thousands of leaders with even more rights than I would suggest to give to goverment. And most of them are not strong or even clever enough.

Yes, you can find another job here if you like. But:
1) Sometimes it is not easy
2) You have to worry about career, resume, references, etc.
3) (and the most important) In Czar's Russia there were no problems for Russians to visit abroad, ruble was one of the most strong currency in the world. I've never said that I suggest to close borders. If country is rich enough any country in the world would be more than happy to have you as a tourist or even resident. Sauds don't have any problems with visas to Europe or America, do they? If you don't like to live in rich and prosperous country, don't want to have very good and stable income but pay for this by some restrictions in your rights and freedoms - ok, no problem, you are free to go wherever you want.

This mechanism worked for centuries, it works know for middle east monarchies, and I believe it would work for Russia.

Your emplyer does not own you.

You really dont get it.

Angus · « **Reply #194 on:** December 18, 2005, 12:19:28 PM »

Oh, those Russians.....