Author Topic: Acts of War on the US border (Read 2407 times)

culero · « **Reply #90 on:** January 27, 2006, 06:20:46 PM »

Again, lazs, if you think I don't agree you simply misunderstand me. I'm all for tightening up the border, enforcing the law, and especially going after the employers of illegal aliens since IMO they are what attracts illegals here in such abundance.

I believe you've also misunderstood the folks I was chastising here. For example, see Hangtime's last reply to me. Can there be any doubt after what he said? Do you believe the penalty for non-violent offenses of the law should be summary execution? Can there be any doubt that someone who espouses that isn't speaking from a position of hatred?

culero

Big G · « **Reply #91 on:** January 27, 2006, 11:47:18 PM »

There's been reports of (and I'm not kidding either) CHINESE soldiers working with the Mexican soldiers up near the border, the Border patrol have tried to keep this quiet but they can't keep a lid on it forever.

Big G · « **Reply #92 on:** January 27, 2006, 11:49:56 PM »

I think the numbers of undocumented, unscreened and unaccounted for people illegally crossing the border here in California presents a clear and present danger to the security of the United States- Enough said

lazs2 · « **Reply #93 on:** January 28, 2006, 10:41:24 AM »

culero.. the problem is that you have no idea if the people crossing are the good guys or... like the guys you ran into yesterday.... ready to whip out guns after they run for cover and shoot. They are crossing a countryies border illegaly for who knows what reason.

I think that the people here are just mad at the scope of the problem.. I think once the problem is trimmed down to a manageable level there would be room for, and...... reason for... compassion but...

I agree that those upholding the law will have to allways assume that people that are breaking the law may harm them because.... they may be bad guys... they may be REAL BAD guys... they all look the same tho. You can't tell the good from the bad till you check em out at gunpoint.

lazs

Big G · « **Reply #94 on:** January 28, 2006, 11:43:47 AM »

Build an electric fence and mine it, just like the Berlin wall, this has to stop, who knows who is sneaking in ?
As I said earlier, this presents a clear and present danger to the security of the Unites States, take politics out of this, stop looking for votes from certain racial groups and do something to protect EVERY American/resident Alien.

Automate the Agriculture business too, that wil wipe out a vast majority of undocumented workers, this has to stop guys, I mean, how can anyone know who and WHAT is being brought over the border?

Hangtime · « **Reply #95 on:** January 28, 2006, 12:01:54 PM »

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Originally posted by culero
Again, lazs, if you think I don't agree you simply misunderstand me. I'm all for tightening up the border, enforcing the law, and especially going after the employers of illegal aliens since IMO they are what attracts illegals here in such abundance.

I believe you've also misunderstood the folks I was chastising here. For example, see Hangtime's last reply to me. Can there be any doubt after what he said? Do you believe the penalty for non-violent offenses of the law should be summary execution? Can there be any doubt that someone who espouses that isn't speaking from a position of hatred?

culero

"can there be any doubt?"

Not 'hatred', Culero.. it's RESOLVE.

Most folks that have had to fire a weapon in service to their nation in hostile conditions understand the difference between 'hatred' and 'resolve'.

We need resolve, not hatred; to solve this problem.. no room for religious or racial overtones, and I resent your 'spin' the situation with liberal pansie catch-phrases like 'hatred'.

Resolve.

culero · « **Reply #96 on:** January 28, 2006, 12:24:46 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
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You can't tell the good from the bad till you check em out at gunpoint.

lazs

Agreed. That doesn't mean the gun must be smoking and the suspect perforated.

culero

culero · « **Reply #97 on:** January 28, 2006, 12:32:50 PM »

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Originally posted by Hangtime
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We need resolve, not hatred; to solve this problem.. no room for religious or racial overtones, and I resent your 'spin' the situation with liberal pansie catch-phrases like 'hatred'.

Resolve. [/B]

Resolve does not involve murder, which is exactly what you are advocating. That's why I've derived that your opinion can only be the result of hatred. Its not spin, its fact.

I find it ironic that you claim to support enforcement of the law, and now that you're challenged you choose to attempt to deflect the argument by associating your BS with combat veterans. Yet, what you are saying we should do is clearly a severe violation of the law, and is patently contrary to the principles of the Constitution that our veterans have fought and died for to defend. Shame on you.

culero

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #98 on:** January 28, 2006, 01:55:40 PM »

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Originally posted by weaselsan
Damn...I thought it was perfectly legal in Texas to shoot anyone who lived longer than 2 years in a Blue State.

And I thought it was perfectly legal to shoot anyone in Texas because "He needed kill'n"

In which case the illegal immigrants fit right in

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #99 on:** January 28, 2006, 01:57:25 PM »

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Originally posted by dmf
I have to agree with that NUKE. If people can come across the border from Mexico, carrying drugs who's to say a terrorist cant do it, carrying a bomb?

Jut another reason why I think we should shoot em on sight

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #100 on:** January 28, 2006, 02:00:53 PM »

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Originally posted by RedTop
Believe me when I say...........

Legal=No prblem
Illegal=BIG problem

And that goes for ANYONE. I don't give a rip where your from. Canada , Mexico , England , Russia , France. Makes me NO friggin difference where people come from to live in the U.S. if it is done LEGALLY.

I'm sick of paying for Julio and his band of banditos coming to this state making a living and not paying a DAMN thing. Send it home. Get sent back by the INS only to come back 2 weeks later.

SCREW EM. They get a free pass on everything this state and country has to offer and lots of people just look over it. No big deal. "Oh they are here to help there families" I hear all that bleeding heart crap.

Fox is out to do whatever the frik he wants to and our government and wussy *** legal system with its ACLU whinning B.S. is WEARING ME OUT !!!

If they are bringing drugs here with armored vehicles then blast them across the River. I don't give a frik.

If some "Whitey" is bringing in illegals then BLAST HIS SORRY *** TO.

It's high time people in this country stop trying to say the "Politically" correct thing so they dont hurt someones feelings. This illegal alien problem is out of control. It's a danger. Anyone who thinks its not only needs to look to not so long ago when things were crumbling in N.Y. City.

Culero ,

I get the feeling you may be Mexican AMERICAN. No offense to Mexican Americans was meant. AMERICANS being the key there. Legal Immigrants. People who went thru the pain to get here and do things RIGHT. Mexican , Afican American , whatever , come here legally , and we are good to go.

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #101 on:** January 28, 2006, 02:09:54 PM »

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Originally posted by culero

I've met a lot of "wetbacks" in my time, and most of 'em would make fine neighbors and community members, completely willing to work and pay their fair share if given opportunity. That doesn't mean I want to condone illegal immigration, but I refuse to scorn these people. The solution is a political problem, not a personal one. Dehumanizing people because they want to earn a living is ignorant.

culero

Fine then let them enter this country LEGALLY.
Any illegal as far as Im concerned I dont care what country they are from. If caught in the act of sneaking across the borders I am all in favor of shooting on site.
So long as it remains the joke of a situation it is. Nothing will change

The best solution politically with Mexico as I see it is to literally make Mexico our 51st state.
Yes by force if need be. Let our Donald Trumps and other entrepreneurs go in and build the place up then th Mexican people wont need or want to leave the area
That is the only way I see it stopping.

uberhun · « **Reply #102 on:** January 28, 2006, 02:21:49 PM »

I married an americanized Mexican. Great lady. Most of her relatives excluding her sisters and brothers live in Mexico or are here Illegally.
I think the real threat is not the external incursions by a foreign neighbor, but the hapless leadership of our nation that goes back tens of years, and us citizens for allowing it to happen. Our government is currently allowing all of our jobs to be exported to foreign nations all over the world. Being an executive for the hospitality industry. I can tell you that the majority of the man power in this industry is of latin descent. They exist in midlevel managment right down to entry level positions. The majority of them I would imagine are illegal since the last ammnesty. The problem with all this is us as a nation have allowed this. Our elected officials who are self serving and incompitent, have lulled us to sleep aqnd pacified us with false ideals. Our economy is based soley on promisary notes that mean nothing.
What we stand for as a nation means nothing we have become a first world nation with a third world culture. Think about it what do we stand for? We stand for "American Idol", Spoiled over paid athletes, "Survivor" and over exposed music industry/ cinema celebrities. We have been blinded by all this media nonsense and have lost our soul as a nation. every year our children become less intelligent, the selfish rich become richer, and the poor are desperate. Our nation suffers national disater after disater, and the media makes us turn a blind eye. The tv and print tells you what to think and what to feel. STOP NOW! Make a STAND! Be vocal, Vote. Vote independent! No more alleigance to party lines. Vote your concience. I do not want illegals crossing my borders and pay for their problems. The problem is within not on the border. This nation will never be safe until we as a nation of one stand up and face our internal problems first!

If you listen real hard you can hear a lone fiddle playing in the distance, and the smell of smoke in the air.

Uber.

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #103 on:** January 28, 2006, 02:22:05 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
are rednecks more stupid than say... wetbacks? colored people? Can you have a redneck who isn't a white guy?

lazs

ALL people, are colored people.
Must be. I've yet to see a clear one;)

Hangtime · « **Reply #104 on:** January 28, 2006, 06:08:49 PM »

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Originally posted by culero
Resolve does not involve murder, which is exactly what you are advocating. That's why I've derived that your opinion can only be the result of hatred. Its not spin, its fact.

I find it ironic that you claim to support enforcement of the law, and now that you're challenged you choose to attempt to deflect the argument by associating your BS with combat veterans. Yet, what you are saying we should do is clearly a severe violation of the law, and is patently contrary to the principles of the Constitution that our veterans have fought and died for to defend. Shame on you.

culero

Horsepucky. You quoted chapter and verse on Texas trespassing. I pointed out that the nation IS at war. It's also fact that the current military, border patrol, state and local police & sheriffs can't stop the traffic with the current rules of engagement. Ask THEM, they'll tell yah what WILL stop it.

Whats needed is dead border invaders. Not touchy-feely permissive and enabling 'give the lawbreakers a break' BS.. THAT AIN'T worked, it WON'T work and as long as liberal whiney pansies let 'em get away with busting the borders we're gonna have a massive hole in our southern security cordon.. a hole easily big enough for a death dealing blow to one of our cities to come waltzing in though with the next 40 man group of border invaders.

Lastly, I KNOW what I am, and it ain't a 'racist' and I'm not expousing racial or religious hatred. I'm expousing NATIONAL DEFENSE. As a veteran, I've some understanding of what the decison process is for pulling a trigger in defense of your fellow americans, and THAT is what I'm talking about.

You can take yer 'hatered' label and fold it up till it's all sharp pointy corners and pound it up yer backside; cause that's where it came from to begin with.