Author Topic: Acts of War on the US border (Read 2368 times)

lazs2 · « **Reply #75 on:** January 26, 2006, 09:03:03 AM »

culero... the average wetback is not a bad guy.... just a criminal.

He is commiting a criminal act. My girlfriend is of mexican decent.. her family did it the right way and she doesn't have a lot of sympathy for wetbacks.

I see lots of mexicans that are here illegally and... they have been so long that.... heck... hardly seems fair that they should have to go back.

There are people who pulled armed robberies 20 years ago that are nice guys... hardly seems fair that they should go to jail once caught.

Maybe we should have a system of laws based on if you are a nice guy or not?

lazs

Suave · « **Reply #76 on:** January 26, 2006, 09:04:12 AM »

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Hmm, I see mexicans with guns, I hear americans, and clearly I see a fence in between them... Just what is that video proof of?

That rednecks are stupid.

lazs2 · « **Reply #77 on:** January 26, 2006, 09:17:31 AM »

are rednecks more stupid than say... wetbacks? colored people? Can you have a redneck who isn't a white guy?

lazs

indy007 · « **Reply #78 on:** January 26, 2006, 09:23:51 AM »

I know a bunch of white, hispanic, african american, and asian rednecks.

Welcome to Texas.

culero · « **Reply #79 on:** January 26, 2006, 05:09:12 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
culero... the average wetback is not a bad guy.... just a criminal.

He is commiting a criminal act. My girlfriend is of mexican decent.. her family did it the right way and she doesn't have a lot of sympathy for wetbacks.

I see lots of mexicans that are here illegally and... they have been so long that.... heck... hardly seems fair that they should have to go back.

There are people who pulled armed robberies 20 years ago that are nice guys... hardly seems fair that they should go to jail once caught.

Maybe we should have a system of laws based on if you are a nice guy or not?

lazs

lazs perhaps you misunderstand me. Actually, I agree with everything you've said here. I just don't agree with others who seem to harbor some sick animus toward these folks. My view is that we should identify them and enforce applicable law, and also do a better job of interdicting the illegal entries. I just see no reason to loathe them since I understand and have compassion for their motivations.

culero

nirvana · « **Reply #80 on:** January 26, 2006, 05:17:19 PM »

In my naive 16 year old mind, anyone who crosses the border illegally then starts to rob hard working tax payers because they want to live the American dream, are thieves and should be treated as such. People that "steal" jobs that supposedly no one wants to do anyway, people that are willing to kill resources. They are stealing yours, mine, and everyone else that pays texes money. I have no problem with anyone coming in legally that work hard and do the right things. The second you start hopping over here stealing healthcare, living off welfare, and tax money, you need to get the hell out. I don't care about race, creed, colour, religion etc.

One question I ask, who's the illegal alien, pilgrim?

Hangtime · « **Reply #81 on:** January 26, 2006, 05:18:39 PM »

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Originally posted by culero
lazs perhaps you misunderstand me. Actually, I agree with everything you've said here. I just don't agree with others who seem to harbor some sick animus toward these folks. My view is that we should identify them and enforce applicable law, and also do a better job of interdicting the illegal entries. I just see no reason to loathe them since I understand and have compassion for their motivations.

culero

bzzzzrrrrrtt.

Wrong answer. They KNOW they are breaking the law crossing the border, yes? They KNOW they are putting LEGAL ailens outta work because they will work cheaper. They KNOW the score. And they are willfully breaking our laws.

Nope, sorry. Yer Apologistic Reasoning is just enabling more lawbreaking. That's a national border, they are violating it. We are at war, that should be a shooting offense; right off the bat.

culero · « **Reply #82 on:** January 26, 2006, 05:27:09 PM »

Hang we're at war with terrorists not Mexico, so your reasoning is off base.

Again, as I replied to lazs, I support enforcing the law. The penalty for illegal immigration, however, doesn't include summary execution. Sorry to disappoint you.

I am not apologizing for anything. I'm trying to alleviate ignorance.

culero

Hangtime · « **Reply #83 on:** January 26, 2006, 05:37:31 PM »

Disagree. Sounds like your making excuses for them to break the law. Texas Law's pretty specific regarding shooting trespassers... and the president is envoking war powers acts to enable loss of LEGAL citizens due process guarantees under the constsitution. Is there any doubt that terrorists AND mexicans can penetrate the border?

Where in hell's the even-handed application of law here? You violate the border, yer invading US territory. *BANG*

End of story.

You don't want yer mexican pals to get shot? Tell 'em to get a damn visa and come in the 'front' door. Sneaking in thru the back door is trespassing, and is liable to get yer bellybutton shot in my neighborhood. Closing the border means CLOSE THE DAMN BORDER.

Eagle Eye · « **Reply #84 on:** January 26, 2006, 05:58:28 PM »

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Originally posted by Gunslinger
Fight Fire with fire. Isn't this our military's main JOB? Defending our borders. If the mexican military is being bought off by smuglers and escorting them accross the border there needs to be a strong presence on the border.

THem suckers cross the border call in som apachees/cobras to take them out.

This isn't about somone in malibu hiring Juan to be their gardener or wal-mart's contract cleaners.

I see these people as a direct threat, even more so now that they are hiring military to help them out. Worse is where's the uproar about this? We sell Mexico Humvees with mountd Machine guns to escort drug runners accross our borders?

Yep stage Apaches every 200 miles along border arm Border patrol with 113's w heavy quad 50's. Notify the Mexican if they do not wish for US troops to invade thier country to halt these crossings destroy any that cross and after a certain amount of time(to allow the Mexican goverment time to fix the problem) the send the BIG RED 1 south to mexico city.

Gunslinger · « **Reply #85 on:** January 26, 2006, 07:14:12 PM »

Two tons of pot found inside Mexico-U.S. border tunnel

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Investigators discovered a sophisticated cross-border tunnel yesterday extending about a half-mile and found about 2 tons of marijuana on the Mexican end.

The tunnel begins about 85 feet below a small warehouse about 175 yards south of the U.S. border. The other end is in an apparently vacant industrial building in Otay Mesa.

Late last night, authorities were still pulling marijuana out of the tunnel, which is outfitted with electricity and a ventilation system. The building is in an industrial neighborhood near Tijuana's airport.

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Hmmm if they can sneak 2 tons of pot in a sofisticated tunnel just think what else they can smuggle accross.

Wolf14 · « **Reply #86 on:** January 26, 2006, 08:25:27 PM »

Nice thing about working at a university and handling some of the distance learning classes is listening the things some of the professors teaching the classes say.

One prof said something that kinda scared me. He said that terrorist are just plain stupid. I agree and in most most cases who doesnt.?He then went on to say that there is one group that a terrorist could link up with and anything and everything they needed they could get into the US. He said so far that there wasnt any evidance that they have yet hooked up with said individuals but it is only a matter of time.

Gunslinger · « **Reply #87 on:** January 26, 2006, 08:35:21 PM »

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Originally posted by Wolf14
Nice thing about working at a university and handling some of the distance learning classes is listening the things some of the professors teaching the classes say.

One prof said something that kinda scared me. He said that terrorist are just plain stupid. I agree and in most most cases who doesnt.?He then went on to say that there is one group that a terrorist could link up with and anything and everything they needed they could get into the US. He said so far that there wasnt any evidance that they have yet hooked up with said individuals but it is only a matter of time.

That's pretty much how I feel about the subject. It's not so much the pot, it's the other crap they could easily sneak over as well. Who knows, dozens of sleeper cells could have allready got accross.

Pooh21 · « **Reply #88 on:** January 26, 2006, 10:18:19 PM »

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Originally posted by Gunslinger
The tunnel begins about 85 feet below a small warehouse about 175 yards south of the U.S. border. The other end is in an apparently vacant industrial building in Otay Mesa.

lazs2 · « **Reply #89 on:** January 27, 2006, 08:37:56 AM »

culero... I thnk that you are on the wrong track... I don't think anyone here despises hard working mexicans or mexicans in general or... has a loathing for illegals who cross to feed their families but.... everyone wants the law upheld..

I think that the people who "loathe" simply loathe the scope of the problem... It is so large and so costly and so dangerous that it is the problem that they loathe.. The individual mexican wetbacks, be they "good people" or hardened criminals... are just a part of the huge problem that everyone realizes must stop..

It is admirable that you feel sympathy for the "good ones" certainly you must despise the real thugs tho as much as any of us? How do we enforce such a law using the current border?

Nope... tighten up the border and convict and imprison employers for a mandatory year sentance.. then...

Selectively let the "good guys" in to work.

lazs