Originally posted by fartwinkle
Any cop that cant subdue an unarmed man has no buisness wearing the badge.
There was no reason what so ever for that clown to cap the dude3 TIMES!:furious
Could have at the very least fired a warning shot at the ground away from him
to get his attention.
I am getting so sick and tierd of these azzclown cops strong arming the very people that pay there salaries.
How do you know the suspect was "unarmed"?, because the media told you... right?
The media wasn't there to tell the Deps who was armed and who wasn't, so your notion of the Dep trying to subdue the "unarmed" susp does not apply.
All that matters here is if the Deps reaction at the time he fired was "reasonible" based on what the Deputy knew at the time. What the media knows after the fact means nothing... you think while driving 100+ MPH to catch these a-holes the Deps just knew he was an unarmed neat guy who just wants to help?
If you can tell me how the persuing Deputies could know that, you'll be a very rich man teaching your mind reading technique to cops all across the world.
I mean, wow, you are able to tell me the Susp was unarmed, not even the Deputy knew that... you missed your calling in life bro, you really need your own 900 number.
I havent read the Dep was found guilty of anything, only a court can determine guilt... being placed on administrative leave after a shooting is SOP (Standard Operating proceedure). I was sent home after my 1st OIS, 3 weeks of paid leave.. my badge and duty weapon were taken, blood drawn and I sat home waiting for the phone to ring. Before returning to full duty was a mandatory check-up from the neck up from the Dept head shrink.
You guys, that are interested in this stuff, should read about a Cali police officers "Bill of rights" AKA AB301 rights. IF that Dep is off probation, he has full blown AB301 rights and
nothing will be determined while the AB301 process goes on.
Did you know that Dep can flat out refuse to tell his side of the story?, he has rights under the 5th amendment like everyone, BUT he can be ordered to give a statement or face insubordination... and as you well know any statement outside Miranda can't be used against you. The Dep also has the absolute right (per AB301) to have an association rep present during any questioning.
Dancing around the AB301 rules can take months, and its a good thing, it keeps the emotional knee jerk reactionaries in the untrained public who have no clue what proper police proceedure is from rail roading the Dep before all the facts are known. Watching the video is looking at the incident through a straw hole... most of the assumptions you guys have come up with are silly at best.
Warning shots = illegal discharge of a firearm, even for on-duty officers... why?, because what goes up must come down and Depts dont want the liability of a stray round striking someone. Warning shots also invite armed suspects to return fire, your partners to think they're being shot at, and frankly, is a waste of ammo that will get you fired.
Also in So California, Deputy Sheriffs work for the County, Police the city, and CHP (Cant Handle Police-work AAA with a gun) are Calis version of the State police... although technically CHP officers are "Traffic officers", they're tasked to protect the Gov and other state political losers and in many rural areas of the State the CHP is the prominent policing agency.
Sheriffs, Police and CHP are all sworn to the State, must complete the same mandatory POST (Police officer Standards and Training) requirements, and basically have the same police powers... there are some things only the CHP can do, like investigate school bus related collisions... by law the CHP is the only agency authorized to do so.
I still dont have a problem with the shooting, the MP, besides sounding like a punk unprofessional intoxicated a-holio, looked like he suddenly started flailing around as he was talking smack, bad idea when the Sheriffs are pointing weapons at you.
It was obvious the Susp thought since he was cooler and more badass, he could do what he wanted... after a late night chase on the side of some road you lose your coolness because its irrelavent who you are or what you've done. Once you're cuffed, the situation is safe and the Deps ask you for your story, then you can run your lips about how your poop smells like sunshine.
If you do something that felony stupid while cops are pointing guns at you, yeah... you might get shot. If he had laid on the ground, mouth shut following orders, he'd have less lead in his diet.
My one tactical question would still be, why no felony stop?..
