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Offline mrfish

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« Reply #45 on: January 24, 2001, 05:10:00 PM »
 
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TheWobble

Please use the spell checker when speaking for us Americans  
BTW you're not speaking for this American...

thanks

Eagler

haha - eagler, this is just another wobble fantasy anyway....

HEY WOBBLE PARIS TEXAS AINT IN FRANCE!!!!

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« Reply #46 on: January 24, 2001, 05:56:00 PM »
 Dinger I agree. Ill tell you a tourist story. A buddy and I rode our Harley out to west Texas. A place called Hells Half Acer (Yes there is such a place). We threw bed rolls down when we got tired, and slept in the desert. Not the tidiest environment. Anyway, one morning im setting on my bike, in a gas station.
Waiting for my pal to get out of the john. This van pulls up. And this hoard of Japanese people come pouring out of the thing. There are about 6 of them and they all have cameras. They spot me, and for some reason start clicking away at me. There is this big, table top mesa behind me and at one point they indicate, as best the could, that they wanted me to pose, with this thing over my shoulder like John freaking Wayne. I drew the line at that. But I tried to be a good sport about the thing. They knelt down, so they could get an upward shot of me, with that hill behind me. And somewhere enshrined in Yokohama are some pics of a very dusty biker.

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« Reply #47 on: January 24, 2001, 07:26:00 PM »
Why's urrip even considered a continent?  Isn't it just a small arrogant part of the great mother continent of Asia?  Heck with out our life giving gulf stream, it would be a frozen wasteland.  Geologists please educate me.  I can't be right.  I'm just a dumb 'merican.

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« Reply #48 on: January 24, 2001, 07:54:00 PM »
All Americans are dumb, uneducated farmer boys that got nowhere fast til they got some decent European blood.

All American science, I mean absolutely ALL, was based on the works of European scientists.

There were no American fighter pilots in WWII - instead, secrelty various Europeans flew the yank planes; most noticeable of these forces were the Danes.

Fat, undereducated, lacking a culture, Americans devour and rape mother earth, spitting in her face as they guzzle up gas.

They dinnae save anyone in any WWII. They just repalced one opressive regime with another - their own.

Worthless piles of dog manure. Flithy pieces of distended rectum. As hopping mad as two sexually confused kangaroos during the mating season.

Their only redeeming quality is their ability to constantly be an amusement for the rest of the world.

Americans; I fart in your general direction


Thought this discussion needed some gasoline.

 

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« Reply #49 on: January 24, 2001, 08:01:00 PM »
 
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Pepino,
 Soviets were behind the Spanish "communists". 25 years of my life were spent in Sovier Union. Believe me that if we won, Spain would have suffered much more then under Franko's "dictatorship". Just remember polish officers shot wholesale after they were "saved from fascism".

 US should have supported Franko more, not opposed him - the same they supported Pinochet. Both saved their countries from communist threat and ensured peacefull return to democracy.

 miko


I cant believe this went unanswered.

Miko2d. I already answered one stupidity like this in AGW, dont make me repeat the full post. There you said few less taht we had to THANK the USA for 40 years of Fascism.

Had the REPUBLICANS (R-E-P-U-B-L-I-C-A-N-S, not MARXISTS ,nor COMMUNISTS, REPUBLICANS) Won the war, a REPUBLICAN DEMOCRATIC GOVERNMENT (Just like the one on place in 1936) would have taken place.

Instead we had 40 yeards of repression, fascism, and US bases on Spain. THANK YOU, OH OUR SAVERS!

But...your comparation with Pinochet is really an ABOMINATION. You REALLY know what happened there? do you know, by any means who was Salvador Allende? you call that man COMMUNIST?! You say that pinochet, a MONSTER, a GENOCIDE, is an HERO!? for KILLING A DEMOCRACE!?

I wont take the work to answer suck load of stupidities, but I will tell you this: Before you talk, please have a LIGHT idea of what are you talking about.

because right now YOU HAVE NO IDEA.


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« Reply #50 on: January 24, 2001, 08:03:00 PM »
Gonna have to disguise the bait a little better than that Santa    

RAM- tell us how you really feel  

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« Reply #51 on: January 24, 2001, 10:33:00 PM »
Dammit StSanta, keep that up and we will stop amusing ya!

And, if we decide to stop amusing you we will also refuse to amuse the rest of the world at the same time AND we will tell 'em it was you who pissed us off and caused the amusement deprivation and they will be really pissed at you and we will be off the hook for awhile.

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« Reply #52 on: January 24, 2001, 11:40:00 PM »
we  (Americans) won't judge europeans by the standards set by StSanta

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« Reply #53 on: January 25, 2001, 01:04:00 AM »
Cmon, we dont hate you US people. We just hate your government and its policies.

We all know that more than half of the US population dont know there is a world outside their border. "Japan" is a place near Oklahoma, "China" is right below Virginia, "Europe" is a tourist spot near the Alamo (its even said there were 2 big wars near there... damn santanas!), "Mexico" is where all those taco restaurants come from and of course "Kuwait" is the other name the media has for the arizona desert (where its said a big oil fire was started by some of those turban-wearing hippies a while ago).    

Seriously though, its the decisions made by the US govt regarding other nations and the arrogance & conceit displayed by US tourists when they travel around the world that makes this phenomena happen.

When I was in Korea with a group of US guys in a company-paid trip, my trip-buddies, all of them between 18 and 25 made a damn mess of the hotel we were in, refused to pay damage bills and deposits and were a general pain in the bellybutton for the tour personnel the whole time. Peons wanting to be treated like kings during a FREE trip halfway around the world and staying in the Hilton. Perfect example of why "US Bashing" has a reason for being.

One thing that touched me though is that when we were walking down a shopping center, we were stopped by a mid-aged woman who wanted to thank us for saving her country and son and housband during the Korean War. She even gave us free coffee at her shop. I mean, WOW.

We talked with her, she remembered that there were some Colombian troops in Korea as well when I told her where I was from, even said "thank you" in Spanish!!!!! WOW.

She leaves, im deeply touched and then the moment is completely ruined when the gringo starts boasting of what they did in Korea.

#$#@$#@$#@%$#$ .

The rest of the trip I spent alone and staying veeery far away from the group, spending almost all my time with the tour guides (and one of them was  a really cute girl!).

I think about it...and end up staring at a wall of disbelief.

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« Reply #54 on: January 25, 2001, 03:02:00 AM »
TAC , your post says your from Orlando USA . ARE YOU ??  if not , are u ashamed to say your from Spain?

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« Reply #55 on: January 25, 2001, 04:42:00 AM »
RAM, that was not answered because I was going home. Anyway, you do not need to be so rude, IMO. We try to show our superiority to Americans, right? j/k  

And, while we are at it, some facts:

Spain, 1.936, Republican Democratic Government allowed church burning, and political prosecution.

Spain, 1.936, crime raging, economic crises, local governments chaos.

Spain, 1.936, anarchists and communists pushig for power, but by means of wild & violent labour strikes, instead of democratic vote.

Spain, Civil War, Republican Democratic Government is overan by anarchists and communists supported by the PCUS (U.S.S.R. communist party). The anarchist are massacred by the communists in Barcelona shortly after. Communists became, in fact, the leading force of the Republican side.

I am not saying fascists in Spain were right  (btw, technically speaking, Franco was not a fascist but a dictator) and I am not making an apology fo the Coup d'Etat, nor the Civil War, Heaven forbid. I am only saying that nothing, and especially Spain in the thirties, is white or black.

On the dictatorship support, bear in mind that U.S.A and U.S.S.R. were in fact fighting WWIII (cold war). In a hot war, civil casualties die under the bombs, I guess in a cold one, under the different tyranies supported by each side. Both sides of the conflict were ugly monsters those days, and we were caught in the middle. As a personal choice, I rather like the U.S.A. ugly face than the U.S.S.R. one, and not only by economic standards.

Now, on an answer to Miko, Hitler's target was, as the Deutsch national himn says, "Deutschland über alles", a superior nation with a superior race. With this philosopy in mind, clash with the U.S.A. was only a matter of time. Should not the U.S.A. get involved in European War, the consequences would be much, much worse for you at the end. Hitler would have the time to consolidate his conquers, and climb a step higher on the ladder when he felt his feet on solid ground. In fact, FDR saw it very clearly, and IIRC, he was one of the strongest voices against isolatinists. Wise man, thank god.

European continental nations lacked what Spanish Civil war meant: a general essay on WWII, on the axis side. And they lost the only chance they had, for a brief moment to attack Germany just after the Sudeten anexion, when they were still weak. But having France & U.K. agreeing on the when, what and how on that times is utopic. Heh, even now it's utopic  

So to the why the U.S.A. got involved into WWII, it is because your president saw clearly that isolationism was not the answer, but it was the snake egg. The Lend & Lease Act (I think it is the right name) is only an intermediate step towards full involvement.

For what plan Marshall is concerned, It's really brilliant. But take into account that besides the evident help it provided to rebuild Europe, it is also a wonderful business for the U.S.A. (and I am not critisizing it. I believe Marshall plan was the most effective weapon against rampant Soviet influence), and boosted U.S.A. exports big time.

On a side note, I think If we go on talking on this subject, we should move the thread to the History forum.

Cheers,

Pepe

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« Reply #56 on: January 25, 2001, 05:03:00 AM »
 
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Yup, even though Americans are these big assholse there sure seems to be a lack of threads where out of the blue we decide to try and belittle europe, however that seems to be the major europien squeak "americans are amazinhunks" every time I read this bord i see that and a bunch of other CRAP about how americans suck, yet its not very often ya see americans bashing anyone for no reason other than a reply for some remark, yet we are the badguys...I went to paris with my parents a while back we walked into a restraunt WITH DOGS IN IT btw, and we sat for 15 miniutes waiting for a waiter, a whole groupe of waters were just standing around just chatting and helping other costumers but never came our way, eventually we just quietly left, who is the amazinhunk in this instance...no wait im sure someway that us horrible rude american offened the waiters so they had every right to treat us like toejam..

You have to know that some waiters in Paris have a special "style" it's not the general case.And it can happen to French people too   it hapened to me several time ending with a lot of noise and bad words  
And about the dog I'm pretty sure you where in a Bistrot not a real restaurant  

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« Reply #57 on: January 25, 2001, 05:39:00 AM »
 
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Originally posted by Jack55:
Heck with out our life giving gulf stream, it would be a frozen wasteland.

Absolutely right Jack55, we europeans way to often forget, without USA
we would be an Iceblock. So thank you again for heading the Gulf Stream
in the right direction!

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« Reply #58 on: January 25, 2001, 09:11:00 AM »
As an "American" living in Europe (20 years in total),
I can say this, most Americans think that there way is better, or the only way to do things. Most are very arrogant, and have very little respect for other cultures. The reason I say this is I see them every day in places like London, Amsterdam etc..if you could see the way they (or most) act, you would just shake you head and walk away in disgrace. an example.

At McDonalds in Amsterdam US Air Force TSgt's (in Dress Blue's) were at the counter placed there order in English (ok well American) then went to pay in dollars when the clerk said the did not take dollars they got pissed off and made the statement that everyone takes dollars as it was the only currency that was worth anything.

I know that not all Americans are the same but it's people like the two above that make it bad for everyone else, BTW the above example happens more than not.    

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« Reply #59 on: January 25, 2001, 09:30:00 AM »
Um. Paint, the "From" is column is for where you're living now, or where you'd like to be from.  Tac doesn't have to put Spain if he doesn't want; in any case, I thought he said he was Columbian.
Yeah, I love French restaurants.  One time I went in to some bistrot, and the waiter recognized me from my previous (and only) visit: Eight months before, I was with 6 other loud Americans who didn't finish any of their plates.
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