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Offline Angus

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« Reply #60 on: February 17, 2006, 11:02:44 AM »
Wotan mit uns?

Nei nei...:

Megi Óđinn vera međ oss!
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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« Reply #61 on: February 17, 2006, 11:05:52 AM »
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I'm sure crumpp won't return and he will allow his subscription to AHII to lapse.  he is already involved in another WWII mmog as an aircraft model developement consultant and as a player.


This would seem to indicate a conflict of interest as Crumpp was constantly complaining about the LW planes here thereby causing discontent amongst the playerbase while working for a competitor.

Bad form if nothing else.
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« Reply #62 on: February 17, 2006, 12:08:28 PM »
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This would seem to indicate a conflict of interest as Crumpp was constantly complaining about the LW planes here thereby causing discontent amongst the playerbase while working for a competitor.

Bad form if nothing else.


Yeah ... that does seem kind of odd. Yet not inconsistent with this domain. Us old bastids know of plenty of cases where some person offered data and/or services to a game company, got turned away, and went to the competitor ... or ... uh ... started their own company. :D

And Crumpp wasn't saying anything that a lot of other people weren't also saying about the handling of the LW rides. Chicken and egg, I guess. He just had more hard data to back it all up.

And, to be quite fair, HT showed a lot more restraint that I woulda in terms of the personal attacks made on himself and HTC.

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« Reply #63 on: February 17, 2006, 12:11:58 PM »
While I found this post mildly INteresting, there's 15 minutes of my life I'll never get back. :rolleyes:

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« Reply #64 on: February 17, 2006, 12:20:59 PM »
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...  Luftwhine threads are a perfect example of this. Discussions about planes rapidly get hijacked and flamed.

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Both the board and MA have been out of hand for a long time, specially noticable for those of us who have been here a long time.


I don't know why people take it so personal when it's suggested that a plane is undermodeled (LW) or overmodeled (Spit). All most people want - HT included - is that it be right and balanced. I'd love the Fw190 to be modelled so it was more competetive in the MA; but it ain't, I speak my case here, and fly an La-5 instead. No biggy.

The forum threads on bannings and Ch.200 violations seems to be on the rise recently. Maybe it's HTC tightening up the ship in preparation for ToD. Don't know - but there's a lot of petty idiocy in the MA right now - I'm hoping its just people bored waiting for ToD to start and not a new generation of mindless crusty-knuckled idiots invading the game (in which case they'll need to be stomped into gravy).

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« Reply #65 on: February 17, 2006, 12:25:46 PM »
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he is already involved in another WWII mmog as an aircraft model developement consultant and as a player.


WHICH ONE???

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« Reply #66 on: February 17, 2006, 12:26:23 PM »
Let's cut to the chase here, gentlemen.

Crumpp's major fault has always been his inability to know when it was time to zip closed his pie-hole in a public forum.

Any issues he may have perceived with the aircraft or HTC could have addressed in e-mails to HTC. He did not have to spew his frustration all over the BBS.

There's a simple protocol for expressing your views and that protocol requires you to do so privately.

His obsession with one type of aircraft is, well, unusual. To me, it bordered on manic as times. Nonetheless, Crumpp was a valuable resource for documentation on the Focke Wulfs.

I have flown against him several times and he was not obnoxious or rude. Seemed like an ordinary guy who enjoys his hobby.

He was not happy with the way the 190s flying in Aces High, and he stated so. However, I can't help but wonder how much of that was his flying and not the aircraft modeling. It's not uncommon to see or hear complaints about aircraft models when the pilot is unable to do what he expects to. God knows, I've been guilty of that myself. It's always easier to blame the flight model than admit you haven't the skills to utilize the aircraft's potential.

More importantly, it's necessary to remember that this is a game, a hobby. This is not real life and getting one's life tied up into a knot over a flight model in a game indicates that one needs to re-evaluate their life's priorities.


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« Reply #67 on: February 17, 2006, 01:07:31 PM »
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Yeah ... that does seem kind of odd. Yet not inconsistent with this domain. Us old bastids know of plenty of cases where some person offered data and/or services to a game company, got turned away, and went to the competitor ... or ... uh ... started their own company. :D


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« Reply #68 on: February 17, 2006, 01:50:51 PM »
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More importantly, it's necessary to remember that this is a game, a hobby. This is not real life and getting one's life tied up into a knot over a flight model in a game indicates that one needs to re-evaluate their life's priorities.
Well said WW. Well said. This is just a game. That is owned by HTC.  As owners, if they decided to make a P-51D with a pink paint scheme, they can. Or put a bottle of whiskey in a cockpit - they can. It's their product, their game. If we don't like it, there are other, much less impressive WWII MMOLG's out there.
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« Reply #69 on: February 17, 2006, 05:31:08 PM »
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If we don't like it, there are other, much less impressive WWII MMOLG's out there.


As soon as "Grenada Online" is released I am sooooo outa here:t

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« Reply #70 on: February 17, 2006, 08:00:29 PM »
Crump made some worthy contributions to the boards in the form of data, despite his obvious bias, and weak interpretation. He could also be charming, but there was a darker side to his character, more than once I’ve heard him react to being shot down in the arena, with a torrent of abuse and profanity directed at the shooter. I remember thinking that the man was unstable, and after seeing so many of his threads deteriorate I’ve deliberately avoided responding to his posts despite being compelled to correct his many errors and inaccuracies.

I have faith in HT’s good judgement and have no doubt that this was a sound decision and that future posts will be more constructive as a result.  

I accept the use of these boards as a privilege granted by HTC.

I enjoy that privilege.

Thank you HiTech!

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« Reply #71 on: February 18, 2006, 11:31:53 AM »
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As soon as "Grenada Online" is released I am sooooo outa here:t

Yeah!!!!  same here, I'm still waiting for "Somalia Revisited Online"
As soon as it's released I'm outta here too!!!!

Have fun

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« Reply #72 on: February 18, 2006, 04:47:38 PM »
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I’ve deliberately avoided responding to his posts despite being compelled to correct his many errors and inaccuracies


Badboy I know that feeling.


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« Reply #73 on: February 20, 2006, 05:06:16 AM »
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More importantly, it's necessary to remember that this is a game, a hobby. This is not real life and getting one's life tied up into a knot over a flight model in a game indicates that one needs to re-evaluate their life's priorities.

My regards,

Widewing


This is true. However, isn't Crumpp heavily involved in the rebuild of Weisse Eins? Let's see, to restore a fighter aicraft that crashed, after combat, more than 60 years ago is hard enough. But they want to make it bleeding AIRWORTHY. It has been 60 years since any Fw-190 flew at all! Crummp even looks down on the 'new' Flugwerk 190's!

Then again, 5 brand new 262's have been built, so nothing seems impossible given enough dedication.

To come back to Widewing's remark, with all this in mind it seems obvious to me that the Fw-190 IS Crummps life's priority... And yes, he bordered on the manic, sadly. Still it wasn't nearly as bad as Kurfurst, I firmly believe that guy needed professional help...

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« Reply #74 on: February 20, 2006, 05:30:15 AM »
"And yes, he bordered on the manic, sadly."

I'd say we probably have that kind of people here still but they do not stick out because they represent the general opinion, at least for now.

But that is how a social community works. At least for us apes. BTW the jungle radio told me that humans call the ability to tolerate differences as a measure of a working democracy. What a load of BS. Want bananas my fellow hairy friends? :D

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