Author Topic: Port operations sale (Read 1392 times)

NattyIced · « **Reply #30 on:** February 21, 2006, 10:17:31 PM »

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Originally posted by fartwinkle
I mean 99% of the country including his own party thinks this is a really bad idea yet he thinks its right.

Sounds very dillusional to me.

Okay RC51.

Maverick · « **Reply #31 on:** February 21, 2006, 11:28:12 PM »

On a personal level I have a real heartburn over turning over a port operation to a foriegn country other than a very trusted ally. There is already far too little screening of what is being transported through those places much less letting a middle east country have direct responsibility for one, much less 6.

I understand Bush wanting to "throw a bone" to a ME country, but I think giving them the keys to the front freaking door is not a good idea. There are other trade options that can be used to help a "friendly" muslim based country.

It's sad to say that when the conflict with terrorists started out for us that it was not specifically a religous based conflict, on this side of the ocean. The insistance of the terrorists claiming that it is has likely made it one for us now. Until the muslims get off of their dead butts and start turning these barbarians in, I for one cannot take them seriously that they are not tacitly giving approval for the actions of the terrorists. Talk is cheap, but until they back it up with action and stop the actions of their own people in doing this type of action I simply don't believe they don't condone and support it.

The same goes for any confidence I have in giving a muslim based nation an open door in our security on our own soil.

fartwinkle · « **Reply #32 on:** February 21, 2006, 11:33:40 PM »

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Originally posted by NattyIced
Okay RC51.

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DREDIOCK · « **Reply #33 on:** February 21, 2006, 11:55:21 PM »

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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
The "shoe bomber" Richard Reid was born in a London suburband is the son of an English mother and Jamaican father.

Not saying we are any better, Timothy McVeigh was from our home country.

Ok I'll give you that.

but on average whom is more inclined to inflict death and destruction on this country as a whole. A Fellow american, A Brit, or an Arab?

On Another note.

I dont see how or why we would or should be contracting out security to our ports, international or other wise to any company OTHER then a 100% american owed and operated one period.

This isnt just stupidity.
This is insanity

Holden McGroin · « **Reply #34 on:** February 21, 2006, 11:58:37 PM »

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Originally posted by fartwinkle
Holdin leave the slack jawed liberal dribble to MT he's much better at it than you.

I was pointing out fact, not "slack jawed liberal drivel"

Note please that:

1. Most on this board (including me) would consider my views tend to be more conservative than liberal.

2. Dribble is what babies and basketball players do, "drivel" is the word you were attempting to use, and incorrectly as what I said was fact and drivel is "Inarticulate or foolish utterances" and my comments were neither.

So as my comment was neither liberal nor drivel, you are incorrect on at least two of three counts.

fartwinkle · « **Reply #35 on:** February 22, 2006, 12:04:31 AM »

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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
I was pointing out fact, not "slack jawed liberal drivel"

Note please that:

1. Most on this board (including me) would consider my views tend to be more conservative than liberal.

2. Dribble is what babies and basketball players do, "drivel" is the word you were attempting to use, and incorrectly as what I said was fact and drivel is "Inarticulate or foolish utterances" and my comments were neither.

So as my comment was neither liberal nor drivel, you are incorrect on at least two of three counts.

I know what dribble means and that what I meant.

Holden McGroin · « **Reply #36 on:** February 22, 2006, 12:08:05 AM »

so you don't like democrats playing basketball... check.

>edit I still don't know what that has to do with the facts I pointed out.

fartwinkle · « **Reply #37 on:** February 22, 2006, 12:09:39 AM »

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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
so you don't like democrats playing basketball... check.

LOL got me on that one:)

GreenCloud · « **Reply #38 on:** February 22, 2006, 06:03:59 AM »

all you guys saying saem old tired easy to see - reasons and ideas..

EXCEPT..

this is about the UAE stepping up and becoming a more helpful player in the WAR AGAINST MUSLIM FACIST...UAE will begin helping the USA as a stepping stone and partner in this war as they see it as longevity for there easy livn in there brand new cities and our money

I do not know yet which way this should go..i still can understand many differnt sides..waiting to get more info about this..

but the idea of the Dirka-Lurkas's brother putting a "box' ina cargo container at our ports doesnt sound great

hard to sell UAE getting our ports when they do not accpet Isreali state or support a TAliban gov in Afghan

deSelys · « **Reply #39 on:** February 22, 2006, 07:23:06 AM »

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Originally posted by tedrbr
..... this place is like a Jungle Gym at McDonalds compared to that unmonitored troll zone.

Sig material, thanks

CHECKERS · « **Reply #40 on:** February 22, 2006, 07:29:13 AM »

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Originally posted by Delirium
This should be interesting... I can understand the diplomatic rewards of this, but if a terrorist act is linked through the ports via the UAE it will definitely crumble Bush, his presidency, and his legacy.

Call me a coward, but if I was in charge I would not risk it.

Delirium....
" Being Smart , is not Being a Coward ! .....
This plan of Bush and his crew sucks !:mad:

Regards....
Checkers

Eagler · « **Reply #41 on:** February 22, 2006, 07:40:34 AM »

I don't care who is in charge of the ports ... presently we check what 7% of all containers?

Unless that is upped to 100% there is a loophole. 100% would cost too many $$$. It ain't gonna happen.

There will always be a security issue at our ports regardless of who or what is watching them

Reschke · « **Reply #42 on:** February 22, 2006, 07:48:50 AM »

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Originally posted by GreenCloud
all you guys saying saem old tired easy to see - reasons and ideas..

EXCEPT..

this is about the UAE stepping up and becoming a more helpful player in the WAR AGAINST MUSLIM FACIST...UAE will begin helping the USA as a stepping stone and partner in this war as they see it as longevity for there easy livn in there brand new cities and our money.

Again but a little more bluntly this time. F*** the f***ing f***ers from the Middle East. They have done little publicly to show support other than allowing some US military units to stage out of their nation in support of operations around the PG region. But thats not the issue. The issue at hand is that Bush (yes I voted twice for him because he was at the time the lesser of two evils) has said the government has looked at the issue and says its good to go. What government agency thats not "secret" and actually has oversight from the people its supposed to protect?

I will be on the phone today to my congressional delegates giving them a piece of my mind. Simply because I know the direct numbers to their desks and don't have to pass through the BS catchers in the front offices.

I urge all of you to do the same if you have the opportunity. Take this to the government and let those that you elected know exactly how you feel.

Eagler · « **Reply #43 on:** February 22, 2006, 07:52:03 AM »

as for this deal, you think they are going to import every employee from the ME? Or maybe they are going to hire good ole us of a joe redneck shipyard types to work for them at a fraction of the cost it would be if they had the bed bath and beyond head dress group wandering around our ports..

anyone know the details of the agreement or are you just knee jerkin to the talking heads? maybe they are required to hire us cits to actually run the show

considering alot of programming outsourced is being done by evil cartoon hating muslims. who is to say they haven't planted jihad bugs in the code which will disable and crash corp america computers at the assigned "Allahu Akbar" hour?

john9001 · « **Reply #44 on:** February 22, 2006, 10:29:41 AM »

they bought the British company that manages the loading and unloading of cargo.

the security of the ports is run by the coast guard and homeland security.

the worry is the UAE would have access to the security procedures used.

the people that actually handle the cargo all belong to the longshoremen's union.