New ENY gripe

[Schatzi]

There has to be a minimum number of players online for ENY to kick in. IIRC 150 or 200 or something like that.

[hitech]

Richard have posted it in the last month. Do a search.

HiTech

[Heater]

Originally posted by hitech
HiTech

= PUTZ

[Vudak]

I don't see the big deal.  Fly an F4U1, problem solved.

I also don't believe increasing the wait time to switch countries will solve much.  There is a good core of us who will switch to the lower side, hop in a 5-10 perk Tempest, and go to town.  If we were to be stuck for days or a month in a country that we tried to help out at first, but then which all of a sudden got huge, things would be very, very bad - not because we'd be stuck in high ENY planes, but because we'd be stuck fighting over tablescraps with the rest of you jackals

[Schatzi]

Originally posted by Heater
= PUTZ

*That* time of the year again.....

[Donzo]

Was the question ever answered as to if ENY looks at total people per country or just the number in flight per country?

[dedalos]

Originally posted by cav58d
See Rule #4

Just ask before you get really really really really pissed off next time

[NCLawman]

Here is a suggestion......

If people want to switch sides, that is their option.  And, it is their $14.95 and they are welcome to play in the manner they see fit.  I, personally, have only flown on one country and see no need in switching sides.  But if someone else wants to, have at it.  The grass is just as green flying for the Bishes as it is for the Rooks and Knits.

But as a matter of compromise to this topic......  One could, at first log on to each map, choose a country.  Then they must stick with that country until the next reset.  At the change of maps, each player/squad could again choose the country they wish to fly.  This would prevent side switching for the purpose of "being on the winning" country.  At the onset of each map, you will have to bet on which country will win and then fight for it.  If you want to be on the winning side... then fight to achieve it.  

Personally, I think the ENY limiter is interesting and adds a bit of flavor to the game.  It has, at times, limited me from flying the Nik or Spit 16, but so what?  That means I just up a Hurri and get more Perkies when I shoot down another plane.  

So, that is my humble opinion... but you know what they say about opinions. :-)

[richard_rd]

Thanks HiTech, I found the thread that explains the formula:

http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=171446&highlight=hitech+formula

  This confirms that i am not going crazy, because during the daytime non prime time hours I never notice ENY kicking in, and it is confirmed from your formula that there needs to be 200 total players for the formaula to start.

   I know I may be opening up a can of worms here, and many people will acuse me of being a troll, but i would like to request that you consider allowing ENY to kick in when the number of players is lower then 200. My reasons to justify this are as follows:

On M-F from about 4AM to 3PM the total number of players in the MA is almost always under 200.  And the way it has been the past 2-3 months my side (Knights, yes i know i am crying now) is usually heavely out numbered during this period.  Sometimes as bad as this:

60 -Rook
60 - Bish
30 - Knit

and the ENY does not kick in, now i know why (because of the 200 rule).

  When you only have 30 players, and are outnumbered 2 to 1 by each side, and then those two sides double team your side because you are easy pickins, ENY sure would be useful to try to encourage side balancing.

    I am sure you have a reason on why you feel 200 is the correct number, But i would appreciate it if you would consider lowering that number.  My butt is starting to get sore from all the shells I am catching in it during Non Prime Time MA play ( which happens to be almost 40% of total possible playing time.

   I think when the total number of players is lower, it is more of a disadvantage being outnumbered, but your formula makes the opposit true, and only when the total number of players is high (>200) does ENY take effect.  Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the ENY when the MA numbers are high, but I feel it is even more important to have it when the numbers are low!!!

      Thanx for listining to my rant, and yes I know I am crying, but that is because my butt is hurting from all the shells that are getting rammed up it during Non Prime Time MA play.

[AKDogg]

I like the current eny system all except for perk rides.  I feel if u have the loot to fly them, U should be able to regardless of the eny value.  The cost for these perk rides go up as the eny goes up.  So why can't we fly perk rides even if the cost goes up?

[Vudak]

Originally posted by NCLawman

But as a matter of compromise to this topic......  One could, at first log on to each map, choose a country.  Then they must stick with that country until the next reset.  At the change of maps, each player/squad could again choose the country they wish to fly.  This would prevent side switching for the purpose of "being on the winning" country.  At the onset of each map, you will have to bet on which country will win and then fight for it.  If you want to be on the winning side... then fight to achieve it.  

You have to remember that there are some of us who have absolutely no interest in winning the war whatsoever.  You also have to remember that side #s can fluctuate greatly between resets, which don't always happen that often.

Finally, it's worth noting that people who often switch sides to the outnumbered country generally have some idea of how to put up a good fight.  If you ever look at the roster for a country that's outnumbered 4 to 1, you'll often think it looks like an Allstar Game.  (I'm not claiming to be one of the members).  My point is, taking away such players' ability to switch to the country getting ganged will do even more harm to the country with less people.

[richard_rd]

Originally posted by Donzo
Was the question ever answered as to if ENY looks at total people per country or just the number in flight per country?

   I think the answer is Yes and Yes.

Total number of people in the MA has to be >200 or ENY penalty does not start calculating, But once there is >200 in the MA, then the ENY penalty value is determined by the ratio of players in flight.

[dedalos]

What I find amaizing is that after HT, other players, the local priest, three school teachers and a dog, explained that people have nothing to gain fro switching to the winnig side, people are still complaining about people switching for points.

Not to mention that they don't realize that the only reason they are in the winning side, IS BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE NUMBERS

[richard_rd]

Originally posted by MwDogg
I like the current eny system all except for perk rides.  I feel if u have the loot to fly them, U should be able to regardless of the eny value.  The cost for these perk rides go up as the eny goes up.  So why can't we fly perk rides even if the cost goes up?

   Oh that will really help the side with the low numbers, everyone will start saving their perk points for when side balancing is in effect and the dis advantaged side will see a hoard of Perk planes coming at it!!!      

[rod367th]

Originally posted by Pieper
Its not working then, one team having a 22 eny is not as balanced as it could be......and thats getting to be normal. We don't want the horde of sideswappers. There not Rooks unless we are winning, and there a hindrance. Of course they come to winning country for 25 perks.....It's more than they can earn in a week of real fighting.


Why, when I am fighting the war should I have to leave my country to get gang banged by the people who came to my country because they were loosing to us?

pieper your wrong about coming for the 25 perks changing to get a lot of gang bang kills maybe but real perks you get for changing to team out numbered. like i said before your answer you can get 100 perks a sortie flying for out numbered team.



   you can earn 25 perks in 1 sortie just 2 kills and dying after if your on outnumbered team. So you PERSCEPTION is WRONG . thinking they come for 25 perks. You want perks you go to side with least players not one resetting.


   I would say do screen shot of rooster when you perception is some from bish or nits changing for perks i'm sure rooster check will show that this is not case.


 always been here it goes in cycles rooks numbers great Sundays and mornings. afternoon 's its bishops and evenings knights late night   nits.


 until 2 sides which will only happen if Helll freezes over. this system not working so bad.