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« Reply #285 on: March 31, 2006, 09:02:41 AM »
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due to rising sea levels caused by (you guessed it!) global warming and polar ice cap meltdown.
 


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« Reply #286 on: March 31, 2006, 09:27:28 AM »
The sea levels have risen, Charlotte. Why else would they need to close the flood barrier? (of whose very existence you were unaware until yesterday) What other possible reason can there be, other than the FACT that sea levels are rising? Where is all the extra water coming from?

Time for another cup of tea. My cup is empty - oh wait, that's just a theory. :rofl

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« Reply #287 on: March 31, 2006, 09:34:23 AM »
LOL Beet.. so, what reversed the sealevel rise on the Thames in 2002?
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« Reply #288 on: March 31, 2006, 09:48:45 AM »
There's also no explanation for each closure. A 20 year old wall would require a bit of maintenance I would think. Needs more data to be compelling. It rises 13 times, but falls off 7 times. Can the sea just not make up it's mind?

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« Reply #289 on: March 31, 2006, 09:53:30 AM »
beet.. you have asked for british like gas penalties for American fuel... this is in effect, a ban on SUV's for all but the rich and you know it.

angus....your chart seems to use your numbers for co2 but I believe that indy pointed out that the range of co2 from the distant past could make the chart even look backwards if you wanted it to.    cherry picking data does not help yours or the chicken little scientist cause at all.

It seems that most anyone who thinks about it would conclude that the earth is going through a warming trend currently... who knows how much or for how long?

It would also make sense to conclude that the no one can tell us how much effect we as a race of people are having on it or even..... if we are making natural cooling and heating trends better or worse...

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« Reply #290 on: March 31, 2006, 10:04:02 AM »
yup.

the smart bet is to keep an eye on the weather and have a bug out plan if yer in a storm prone area.

..... same plan our ancestors had.

the rest is useless teeth gnashing.
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« Reply #291 on: March 31, 2006, 10:04:47 AM »
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beet.. you have asked for british like gas penalties for American fuel... this is in effect, a ban on SUV's for all but the rich and you know it.
No I didn't. I drew attention to what happens when gas prices go up - folks steer away from large SUVs, even though the extra cost of gas would only be about $540 for a vehicle doing "average" mileage. This formed part of a discussion about storch's purchase of a house sized SUV for Mrs. Storch.

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« Reply #292 on: March 31, 2006, 10:21:08 AM »
exactly hang and skuzz...

beet... you are tap dancing badly.   You do want the U.S. to raise prices on fuel and you know that it would be a de facto ban on SUV's for all but the richest.

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« Reply #293 on: March 31, 2006, 10:25:53 AM »
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The sea levels have risen, Charlotte. Why else would they need to close the flood barrier?  


Because they can?

The flood barrier has been in operation since 1982...

In almost 25 years, even with an assumed 1 M / century of sea level rise, the assumption alows a 25cm general rise.

If a measly 25 cm makes the difference instead of high tide (which can be better than 5 meters during the spring and fall eqinoxes (equinii?)) and an added storm surge, then the London flood control system is designed incorrectly.
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« Reply #294 on: March 31, 2006, 10:28:01 AM »
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beet... you are tap dancing badly.   You do want the U.S. to raise prices on fuel and you know that it would be a de facto ban on SUV's for all but the richest.

lazs
No, you are up to your old trick of saying something repeatedly, each time more loudly than the last, in the mistaken belief that one day it will become true. I asked you to C&P a quote, or provide a link. You have done neither.

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« Reply #295 on: March 31, 2006, 10:33:38 AM »
Ok.... so you don't think that the U.S. should raise gas prices and you have never used "huge 10 mpg SUV's" as a reason?

I don't think I need to go through a search of your wall-0-text posts to find that...  I think everyone has heard it enough.

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« Reply #296 on: March 31, 2006, 10:45:06 AM »
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Ok.... so you don't think that the U.S. should raise gas prices and you have never used "huge 10 mpg SUV's" as a reason?
I have my own views, without necessarily expressing them on this board, as in the case of US gas prices.
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I don't think I need to go through a search of your wall-0-text posts to find that... I think everyone has heard it enough.
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Despite the fact that I want to believe you said  US gas prices should go up, I can't find any post on this board where you did. So maybe if I pretend that it's buried in your walls of text, people will sympathise me and want to take my side. If I can just get THREE people to agree with me, that will be the cast iron proof that you DID say it - even though I have no proof. For now, I'll just have to go on repeating it in the hope that it will become true.

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« Reply #297 on: March 31, 2006, 10:54:33 AM »
Balh, blah, blah, blah,...blah BLAH!

Man, that poor horse.  Must be a bunch of professional carpet dusters aboot.  Look at that poor thing.  There ain't any hair left on the carcass and they still keep beating it.
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« Reply #298 on: March 31, 2006, 10:56:43 AM »
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Balh, blah, blah, blah,...blah BLAH!

Man, that poor horse.  Must be a bunch of professional carpet dusters aboot.  Look at that poor thing.  There ain't any hair left on the carcass and they still keep beating it.


That's the problem. It's still recognizable. Let the beatings continue!

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« Reply #299 on: March 31, 2006, 11:15:54 AM »
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Balh, blah, blah, blah,...blah BLAH!

Man, that poor horse.  Must be a bunch of professional carpet dusters aboot.  Look at that poor thing.  There ain't any hair left on the carcass and they still keep beating it.


As a dead horse decays it spews horrendous amounts of CO2.
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