Loose Cannons - and the future of Aces High

[wolf05]

To Whom it may concern KILLJOY... A while back, Myself and several other fellow Bishops started the UBCF (United Bishop Coalition Forces) and I must say we did quite well. As a matter of fact, we handed the Rooks, as well as the Knits their tulips on several occasions. We in fact still coordinate with other squadrons on our squad nights, and our off squad nights as well. We have run several succesful missions against both other countries on a daily basis. So Killjoy, we have had it together long before you yourself pulled your head from your own rear end Sir! Maybe if you were not buried up to your ears in your own backside, you would have noticed us<>.

[DoKGonZo]

Originally posted by wolf05
To Whom it may concern KILLJOY... A while back, Myself and several other fellow Bishops started the UBCF (United Bishop Coalition Forces) and I must say we did quite well. As a matter of fact, we handed the Rooks, as well as the Knits their tulips on several occasions. We in fact still coordinate with other squadrons on our squad nights, and our off squad nights as well. We have run several succesful missions against both other countries on a daily basis. So Killjoy, we have had it together long before you yourself pulled your head from your own rear end Sir! Maybe if you were not buried up to your ears in your own backside, you would have noticed us<>.

Now THAT'S funny.

[Wolf14]

Originally posted by JMFJ
You know this is a prime example of why the aces high comunity is a bumpy & disfunctional group, I participate in many forums one of which is a competitive archery forum http://www.archerytalk.com  If I get on there and post that I shot my first perfect score on a NFAA spot round.  I get a hole bunch of congradulations, wtg's, cause they too can relate to when they've made a personal accomplishment or land mark in their hobby.

On this forum if you post something you did you will be bombarded with insults, accusations of vulching, cheating, cherry picking, basically anthing that can be said to try to rain on someones excitement.

JMFJ

Be honest JMFJ, guys that own Bowtechs get the same kinda flak that goes on here and there is also the brand loyalty fued that goes on from time to time.

I also go to archerytalk frequently as well. I just dont post much cause I'm still learnin and dont have alot to contribute.

[JMFJ]

What sight do you shoot on your bow?

JMFJ

[Wolf14]

Originally posted by JMFJ
What sight do you shoot on your bow?

JMFJ

I shoot with an older model BOSS Magnum scope with a 2X lens.

[Edbert]

If you want to see an angry and contentious forum (also full 'flowery' lnguage is allowed) try going to ARFCOM some time (http://www.jobrelatedstuff.com if you are being logged) and say that Colt/Bushmaster/RRA/DMPS/Stag/ArmaLite/Oly/etc. is a much better kit than Colt/Bushmaster/RRA/DMPS/Stag/ArmaLite/Oly/etc.

The flamefest will be amazing.

[Toons]

i'm a very new player on this forum, but i can't see the furballer point at all.

getting in a big dogfight is fun.  but, i can't see how you can play this game for years when your only point is to fight for the sake of fighting.

the game i thought this was, or hope it is, is one where there is some sort of overall goal...like capturing bases and winning the map.  even with a short time in the game i'd like to find a group to organize with to capture objectives.

this argument doesn't make alot of sense to me.  why don't the furballers organize a defense to the toolshedders?  i mean, in ww2, fighter pilots didn't go out to furball just for the sake of furballing, did they?  they flew cap, sweeps, or escorts, right?

my favorite times in the game are when i feel like i'm defending a base against a concerted attack plan, where bombers are coming in wave after wave, and there's a sense of urgency to perform well.  shooting down other planes just to rack up kills...well, i guess i need more meat to my games than that.  

with all of the other areas you can play in in ah, it would seem like the ma is the wrong place for people that just want to furball.  just my opinion- and i'm new, so it's worth what it's worth.

[Reschke]

Huh.......These dweebs are still taking measurements of the virtual noodle'....oh well time to go back to sleep till a useful thread pops up here but thats nearly never in the General Discussion section. This thread almost had a redeeming quality to it when Voss popped in. We had the opportunity to take this thread to a whole new level and wasted it; much like alot of base capture dweebs do frequently.

[yayyyy]

THE LCA IS LIKE THE BEST SQUAD BESIDES BOP. BUT IF BOP WASNT HERE THE LCA WOULD BE NUMBER 1 so thats all i have to say. i want to join LCA to if i can send me an invite. thanks

[Edbert]

Toons, no offense and with all due respect but the strategic aspect of MMOL flight-combat sims was fun for almost everyone at some point, for me that was about 2.5 years, which ended about 8.5 years ago. Base capture is really pretty easy with about 5 dedicated players and assigned roles/targets it can be accomplished unless there's overwhelming opposition. The winning of the war also lost some of its alure, I mean what do you get for your effort? 20 perks? I can get that in one sortie with the right aircraft choice or flying for the outnumbered side, besides I already have thousands of unused perks.

The fun for me is dogfighting, particularly with a small group of squaddies. The huge furballs are sometimes too much but a good 10v10 is a blast. See, capturing a base is easy, winning the war only takes time and organization which is too much like work for me when I just want to have fun and the payoff of winning it is meaningless. If you are into the strategery then winning is a bad idea because you lose half of your bases by doing it. Although on some maps I am in favor of war-winning so we can lose the map, particularly those with long commutes.

I only speak for myself but I reckon many furballers would agree...I am quite happy that the strat guys and the war-winners enjoy those aspects of the game. I wish them all the enjoyment they can handle from whatever gameplay they seek unless it seems to be designed to specifically agitate and incite. The rub for me is that these maps have hundreds of bases out there begging to be captured and sometimes it seems that some of the strat guys like to bomb the FHs that support a furball even though there is no capture attempt in the works. It might not be their goal to disrupt the fun that others are having but I'm willing to bet that sometimes it is. I just think the game and it's players are diverse enough that everyone should be able to share the MA and enjoy their aspect of the game without trying to pee in each other's corn flakes.

[lazs2]

In any large multi player game there has to be something for the unskilled who are afraid to gain any skill...

These types feel most comfortable in a very large group where they will feel that they "belong"  it helps if they can tell themselves that they are working toward a "goal" that people will admire.  It is complex... they want people to ignore their lack of talent and obvious timidity but at the same time.... admire or fear them.

While I find this kind of person pretty disgusting... I can live with the reality of it.   I can even live with the fact that they ruin the game for me once in a while..

It is a big game and if it allways went well.... I would probly get bored.... maybe it is good for me to have to look around a little for a place the attention starved enemies of fun haven't porked with their griefer ways.

on the good side of it.... they make me complain less about the timid and talentless cherry pickers.

lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's

[lazs2]

and.... is someone really asking why these boards can't be all nicie nice?  Be more like an archery or, like my modified Healey BB for instance?

Sheesh...  Take this post for instance.... the guy starts out saying that he can make  life misserable for the guys logging on for an hour or two to have some furball fun by hording with a bunch of like minded talentless newbies...

He then goes on to say that "real skill" is not being able to fight yourself out of an outnumbered situation on the deck with sensory overload on your SA... but that it is..... LOL.... taking orders and being surrounded by a horde for protection.

No.... this is not meant to be contentious at all?   On other forums.... Modified Healey. archery for instance.... the object of the sport or activity isn't to make all the other enthusiasts as misserable as possibelevery minute that you are around them...  Mostly... you are enjoying a mutual interest in say cars or bows and trying to learn and help each other with no motive that will be to ruin the other guys day or.... part of one.

At least in the furball.... everyone feels that they have a good shot at succeeding and.... if they don't.... they feel that they are getting better and.. they can up and try it again..

When you see the griefer misssssshunz guys...  you are pretty much left with ignoring them and finding someplace else to fight or.... log off.  

They claim to want to "win the war" and the hawiian vaction that HT gives out for every win but....  They don't do that... like true griefers... they go where they will get the most attention... if a furball is going on for 30 minutes between two useless fields.... what would good strat be?

ignore it of course and bless the gods of timidity that the other bases will be that much easyie to capture.   Only an attention starved griefer would spoil that fight and pretty much... sabatoge his effort to (gasp) win the war.

you aint fooling anyone... that is why we are laughing.

lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's

[Lazerr]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.. they are making little posters and little things to attract the Noobs!  We need to stop them from multiplying!  OMGGGG

We need a strike force!:t

[DoKGonZo]

There's one point that the furball crowd keeps sticking to on base captures that I don't think is correct. And that is that everyone involved in a furball around a base actually wants it there hour on end. Some percentage of the attacking side is trying to capture that base - probably the majority. At some point it becomes obvious to them that the only way to have enough time to get troops in is to kill FH. A lot of the guys the furballers are shooting down are trying to capture the field. Seems pretty balanced.

Now, how those FH are taken down is another matter. A well orchestrated Jabo strike or 2 or 3 formations of B26's at 8K is fine. Kamikaze P51's or NOE Lancs ... in an endless stream of retardedness ... is not. Those are greifer tactics.

[Zazen13]

Lazs,that was beautifull, you said it all.

Zazen