Author Topic: Gay Marriage thread (Read 6582 times)

Billy Joe Bob · « **Reply #105 on:** April 10, 2006, 06:19:54 PM »

you are ABSOULTELY right tex!!

i think that if someone wants to marry someone they really love be it gay or not they shouldn't be denied to get married. what difference would it make to straight people if they banned gay marraige?

as was said before, being gay is a choice and if they also CHOOSE to be married then so be it.

Gunslinger · « **Reply #106 on:** April 10, 2006, 06:45:28 PM »

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Originally posted by Billy Joe Bob
you are ABSOULTELY right tex!!

i think that if someone wants to marry someone they really love be it gay or not they shouldn't be denied to get married. what difference would it make to straight people if they banned gay marraige?

as was said before, being gay is a choice and if they also CHOOSE to be married then so be it.

So if you had a minor child who was loved by a creepy adult they should be allowed to get married and the adult now takes your child out of your home?

Curval · « **Reply #107 on:** April 10, 2006, 06:57:19 PM »

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Originally posted by Gunslinger
So if you had a minor child who was loved by a creepy adult they should be allowed to get married and the adult now takes your child out of your home?

Tell you what...start a thread about child molestation and the rights of creepy adults to abuse children.

That way we can chat about the subject matter of THIS thread without the red herrings you keep throwing in which are totally unrelated to the topic at hand.

Jackal1 · « **Reply #108 on:** April 10, 2006, 07:44:12 PM »

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Originally posted by TexMurphy
Is it just me who is seeing the double standars here?
Got to love double standars...

Tex

You are one of a few here who is not seeing that it is being asked for a double standard to be put into place.
As it stands now, gays have the exact same rights as the rest us. They are allowed to marry anyone of their choice just as long as it is of the opposite sex.
Putting laws into effect just for gays would be the double standard , not the other way around. Laws being put into place just for gays at the rest of society`s expense is ridiculous.
There are laws allready in effect that will accomplish the goals that they are asking for. They can hire a lawyer and set up a partnership at THEIR expense.
Making a total mockery out of marriage makes no sense whatsoever.
Even the thought of asking for a law to be put into place legalizing perversion is absolute insanity. It also sets a very, very bad precedence . I personaly don`t like the idea of our country being spat upon by a bunch of mutant freak perverts.

Elfie · « **Reply #109 on:** April 10, 2006, 07:49:49 PM »

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Originally posted by Curval
Tell you what...start a thread about child molestation and the rights of creepy adults to abuse children.

That way we can chat about the subject matter of THIS thread without the red herrings you keep throwing in which are totally unrelated to the topic at hand.

His point IS valid.

The homosexual community wants to change the definition of marriage to include same-sex marriages. If we change the definition of marriage to please a minority of the people, then why shouldnt it be changed to include other minorities as well?

Several times I have seen in this thread, folks saying that anyone should be allowed to marry the person they love. By that reasoning if a man loves a 14 yr old girl then by golly he has the right to marry her regardless of what other folks think about it. If a woman loves her dog then by golly she has the right to marry it.

In some cultures marriages are still arranged by relatives and love has nothing to do with those marriages.

I am against homosexual marriages for religious reasons. I believe that homosexual activity, just like sex with minors or animals is wrong.

Chairboy · « **Reply #110 on:** April 10, 2006, 07:57:19 PM »

I just can't take Jackal1 seriously, would the rest of you anti-gay marriage folks say that he speaks for you?

A few decades ago, interracial marriage was illegal. It was 'the law' (lazs) and it was a small minority that wanted to do it(Elfie).

Before the law was changed, they had the same equal rights that the gays do now. They were free to marry within their race, the same as gays are free to marry people of the opposite sex.

How again, exactly, was that different from what we're talking about now? Is 'seperate but equal' still the goal?

Jackal1 · « **Reply #111 on:** April 10, 2006, 08:12:04 PM »

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I just can't take Jackal1 seriously, would the rest of you anti-gay marriage folks say that he speaks for you?

I speak for myself, noone else. I don`t need backup to support my self esteem as you seem to do. I am not, nor do I ever wish to steep so low as to sell out my values to make the PC crowd happy.
If anyone would have any trouble taking anyone else serious it would be me finding it hard to believe that a male in the U.S. would be lemming enough to promote and support a law being put into place to legalize perversion in our country just so they could hang with the PC crowd and attempt to be cool and hip. And at the public`s expense at that. Like I said there are laws in place now that accomplish what they are wishing to accomplish. Totaly friggen amazing to me how cheap some folks sell out their self pride to fit into a group that`s nothing but Pick Up The Soap Sams to begin with.
It`s sickenining and disgusting.

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A few decades ago, interracial marriage was illegal. It was 'the law' (lazs) and it was a small minority that wanted to do it(Elfie). Before the law was changed, they had the same equal rights that the gays do now. They were free to marry within their race, the same as gays are free to marry people of the opposite sex. How again, exactly, was that different from what we're talking about now? Is 'seperate but equal' still the goal?

Being gay is not a race of people. A group of warped perverts, but not a race of people. How hard is that to understand? Race has nothing to do with the issue.

Chairboy · « **Reply #112 on:** April 10, 2006, 08:20:20 PM »

I'm just noting that you're using the exact same arguments that opponents of interracial marriage made.

Jackal1 · « **Reply #113 on:** April 10, 2006, 08:25:10 PM »

And I am just noting that race has absolutely nothing to do with the issue. Gay is not a race of people. It`s totaly irrelevant.

Vudak · « **Reply #114 on:** April 10, 2006, 08:29:55 PM »

Jackal - you know what? Never mind. I'm not going to let my first censored post be a jab at you.

I will say if I'm a lemming, so are you. You weren't born into this world detesting gays. You picked it up from someone along the way and have followed right along to present.

Jackal1 · « **Reply #115 on:** April 10, 2006, 08:37:13 PM »

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Originally posted by Vudak
Jackal - you know what? Never mind. I'm not going to let my first censored post be a jab at you.

Aww c`mon. Give it a shot.

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I will say if I'm a lemming, so are you. You weren't born into this world detesting gays. You picked it up from someone along the way and have followed right along to present. [/B]

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No, I didn`t pick it up from anyone but myself and self observation and self esteem enough to come out and say what I think. Does noone have the capability of thinking for themself anymore or do you beleive everyone has to follow the pack no matter right or wrong?In this case, I say it`s sickening, disgusting, but most of all totaly ridiculous to ask for a law to be put in place to promote and legalize obvious perversion and goes against everything one`s common sense should point out for them. To do it in our country I take as an outright insult to those who made this country what it is.
If someone wishs to put a flower behind their ear and walk hand in hand with the back seat boogie boyz shouting and wailing about their woes and injustice being done to them , that`s their problem, but certainly not mine.

Vudak · « **Reply #116 on:** April 10, 2006, 08:48:17 PM »

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No, I didn`t pick it up from anyone but myself and self observation and self esteem enough to come out and say what I think. Does noone have the capability of thinking for themself anymore or do you beleive everyone has to follow the pack no matter right or wrong?In this case, I say it`s sickening, disgusting, but most of all totaly ridiculous to ask for a law to be put in place to promote and legalize obvious perversion and goes against everything one`s common sense should point out for them. To do it in our country I take as an outright insult to those who made this country what it is.
If someone wishs to put a flower behind their ear and walk hand in hand with the back seat boogie boyz shouting and wailing about their woes and injustice being done to them , that`s their problem, but certainly not mine.

Well in that case please see Stage 2 - Awareness - in one of my earlier posts

Jackal1 · « **Reply #117 on:** April 10, 2006, 08:50:30 PM »

I`d come more thinking that you might need to study that.

Tell ya what , you are probably correct in assuming that it is near reaching the censored stage.
The last thread of this sort I got banned temporarily for asking someone if they were gay or had someone in their immediate family that was gay. It was an attempt to try to understand why someone would get so forcilbly behind an issue that is so obviously riciculous to me . It wasn`t an attempt to "jab" at someone, but an attempt to understand why someone would get behind such a ludicrous issue. It was taken as a personal asualt and an insult. I didn`t understand that either from someone who was publicly supporting gays. Why should asking if they were gay or had someone close to them that was gay be an insult for someone who was openly supporting the gay community I`ll never understand.
So..........I think by now my point and my stnace on the issue is quite clear enough. If it is not, then see the nearest eye doctor as soon as possible.
Have fun. I`m out before speaking what I beleive in is considered an insult. Not because I have a probelm insulting those who I think deserve it, but because I like to post here.

eskimo2 · « **Reply #118 on:** April 10, 2006, 08:56:31 PM »

Suppose that two siblings live together (non-sexually/incestually) and decide that they want to raise children together. Does the government have any right to deny them any rights or privileges that it grants a married couple? If so, why?

Vudak · « **Reply #119 on:** April 10, 2006, 09:15:03 PM »

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I`d come more thinking that you might need to study that.

Aw I see what'cher sayin... Some nights you could be the Jackal, I'll be the Carrion, some nights you can be the Carrion, I'll be the Jackal... That'd be HOT

(And a stupid movie reference

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Joking aside though, I'm not gay, though I really don't care if you think I am, and I wouldn't consider that an insult/censor-worthy. I do have a few gay friends though and they're good guys (and one girl), and good people. I feel bad for them and sympathize with their plight. Also they are a minority. If people like me don't step up for them then their votes are always going to be in the minority. Even with people like me, they still are, but perhaps not forever.

So that's why I stand up for them.