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Offline Kev367th

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« Reply #30 on: May 27, 2006, 06:47:52 PM »
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Our Seafire Mk IIc is fine for a scenario against the A6M5b.


Not saying it isn't in the right context.

But even the 4 sqns of Seafire IIc at the end of the was had already been refitted with the Merlin 32. It was realsied very quickly the Merlin 46 just wasn't good enough.

For any Far East / Pacific scenario it just isn't a good sub for an L III, or Seafire L IIc.
Just because it's a Seafire doesn't cut it.

Storch - No-one is asking for the ENTIRE versions of any models. I was all in favor of derating the old spit V, but I think a lot of us have realised it has left a huge gap.
It was a perfect sub for the L III, plus it was the main Spit through mid 1943, until the F IX arrived in sufficient numbers.

The L III was actually the largest produced Seafire (3x as many as the IIc), so handfulls doesn't even come into it.
If anything it's reversed - we have the rarest Seafire made with the rarest (initial) motor.
Put it this way -
Current Seafire as modelled approx 110 or so made.
Seafire L III - 1400 made.

Funny thing is if it was a Spit XII (100 made) you'd all be whining for it it to be perked. It is just because it the crappiest Seafire there isn't any whines?
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« Reply #31 on: May 27, 2006, 07:00:23 PM »
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 It is just because it the crappiest Seafire there isn't any whines?




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« Reply #32 on: May 30, 2006, 08:47:38 AM »
I think Kev has this pretty well spot on. And here the rarity occurs, the largest production model of an aircraft performs better than the rarity offered ;)
BTW, with some little difference in speed, I bet that the ROC will have more difference. Hence acceleration, and even turn performance.
And Karnak: What fight was this you mentioned??? And where????
Burmese border or Japanese mainland or what???

There is quite little around about the RN in the Pacific.-
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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« Reply #33 on: May 30, 2006, 10:15:43 AM »
Angus,

Japanese mainlain, as Kev noted futher.  It was a Seafire escort of some strike aircraft on the Tokyo area are the end of the war.  I suspect the target was a bit south of Tokyo and on the coast.
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« Reply #34 on: May 30, 2006, 10:21:22 AM »
Angus -
Look few post up, I have posted a short description of what happened.
It was the last dogfight of WW2.

Re: Seafire III - Difference in speed is a lot more than a few mph, as I said earlier, the Seafire IIc can't even get close to the L III's speed low down.
An LIII 6-10k can hit 300+mph
An FIIc doesn't get close to 300mph until 22k+

So how you can call an F IIc a good sub for an L III is beyond me, its the equivalent of saying the F Vb is a good sub for an LF IX.
Hell even the F IX isn't a good sub for the LF IX.
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