actually gunzo and i had some fights in the TA just now, and we proved the opposite. spit5 won every fight. we swapped planes several times, spit always won, either in the vert (we had one fight that ended up going from 0k through a septuple immelman to 6k or so!) or in the flat turn, where it was the clear the f4 was going faster, and therefore turning better, but due to the handling characteristics of the spit, it could fly far slower, and tighter, squeeze right inside the f4 and get some very easy close cannon shots because of the speed. at one time, even though the f4 could climb better, the torque effect and less stable stall meant that even at the top of the rope, the 109 couldnt get onto the spit. meanwhile the spit, still doing 80 mph had enough e to stay steady and get plenty of hits on the 109
on paper, the 109 should win, but due to the way the planes fly and stall, the spit comes out on top if you really take them to the edge.
should have filmed it really, made for some amazing drawn out fights, the match-up is incredible, really is hard for either plane to gain an angle. about to go into the TA again, we'll try it again i think, this time i'll record it:aok