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« Reply #225 on: May 21, 2006, 12:52:34 PM »
Those people's problem isn't spirituality, it's being gullible and/or stupid.
They flock to religion like kids to sugar and teens to pornography.
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« Reply #226 on: May 21, 2006, 12:59:12 PM »
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Those people's problem isn't spirituality, it's being gullible and/or stupid.
They flock to religion like kids to sugar and teens to pornography.


Someone once said "Religion is the opiate of the masses"  Probably the only correct thought he ever had.
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« Reply #227 on: May 21, 2006, 01:04:55 PM »
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Don't appeal to mercy to God the Father up in the sky, little man, because he's not at home and never was at home, and couldn't care less. What you do with yourself, whether you are happy or unhappy-- live or die-- is strictly your business and the universe doesn't care. In fact you may be the universe and the only cause of all your troubles. But, at best, the most you can hope for is comradeship with comrades no more divine (or just as divine) as you are. So quit sniveling and face up to it-- 'Thou art God!' [Robert A. Heinlein Oct. 21, 1960]
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« Reply #228 on: May 21, 2006, 01:55:13 PM »
This has been a very enlightening and moving "Atheistic Outreach Revival."  

Glad Heinlein made an appearance as the guest evangelist!  

When's the invitation?  Do you think there will be many conversions?  

When you gonna pass the plate?  Do you use the offerings to further the faith?

You guys should really consider starting mission programs abroad, in underprivileged, undeveloped, and illiterate countries in the Middle East, Africa, and Asia (although your faith is already firmly established in certain areas of that continent).

Next year, why don't you invite Arthur C. Clarke to speak!  He would really pull em in!

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« Reply #229 on: May 21, 2006, 02:06:04 PM »
...and the band starts playing again.
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« Reply #230 on: May 21, 2006, 02:07:43 PM »
Ahhh.. touched a nerve, I see.

Here's another.. maybe it'll send yah into a catatonic state. ;)

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Perhaps this is why the church is going into a freakin frenzy over a movie? There's plenty in it that a mind susceptible to 'faith based beliefs' can latch onto. Sewing the seeds of doubt must be wigging out the 'faithful'.
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« Reply #231 on: May 21, 2006, 02:55:05 PM »
Wellll...I naturally assumed that you guys were proselytizing.  You ARE trying to save all us simple-minded religious types from our delusions, aren't you?

Or are these monthly internet hoe-downs just meetings of your "Mutual Admiration Brotherhood" where you tweak your opponent's noses, touch a few nerves, and congratulate each other on your intellectual superiority.

For a group that insists that religious types leave you to your own beliefs you can't seem to reciprocate.

Why don't ya'll just post a calendar indicating when one of you is going to start another religion bashing thread?  That way the rest of us can make plans accordingly.

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« Reply #232 on: May 21, 2006, 03:06:11 PM »
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Wellll...I naturally assumed that you guys were proselytizing.  You ARE trying to save all us simple-minded religious types from our delusions, aren't you?


Not me. frankly; what you believe or don't is not my business.. untill agents of yer cult try to monkey with the public library system, public schools, government or courts.

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Or are these monthly internet hoe-downs just meetings of your "Mutual Admiration Brotherhood" where you tweak your opponent's noses, touch a few nerves, and congratulate each other on your intellectual superiority.

For a group that insists that religious types leave you to your own beliefs you can't seem to reciprocate.

Why don't ya'll just post a calendar indicating when one of you is going to start another religion bashing thread?  That way the rest of us can make plans accordingly.


Welllll.. naturally, you can always make a choice. In this situtation, since yah know the subject matter and you find it annoying, you can choose to simply not read it, not post to it and put the offensive posters on yer ignore list.

As always.. the choice is yours. ;)
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« Reply #233 on: May 21, 2006, 03:38:15 PM »
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Arlo,
Care to answer or do you want to continue to avoid it?


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« Reply #234 on: May 21, 2006, 03:40:12 PM »
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You may not have, but christianity in general is making a fairly staunch effort to force me to. Heres the hypocracy... "In god we trust", shoved down the throats of american's, in NZ its "god of nations"... try to get the words changed and the christians claim we're being 'antichristian' and picking on them. But they still want us to (falsely) worship their god.

For me, and many athiests I know, my first reaction to christians is its an excuse to hide behind. Sure there are exceptions, but very few I've ever met practise what the preach - usually its 90% preach 10% practise.

So for me its a bunch of people trying to force their beliefs down my throat, one way or another, forcing me to 'recognise' their god, trying to say they are better than me for their beliefs, and passing judgement on me on my lack of belief in their god alone (ie not my actions), then in the background their not really following those beliefs. Wouldn't that make you just a little iritated?


No. Because I'm not the extremist sensitive reactionary you are. I reserve my energy for causes that deserve it. ;)

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« Reply #235 on: May 21, 2006, 03:42:22 PM »
Shuckins, faith is not part of reason's domain.. so what are you arguing? :)
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« Reply #236 on: May 21, 2006, 03:45:13 PM »
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You ARE trying to save all us simple-minded religious types from our delusions, aren't you?


Don't want to and impossible anyways.
Because if a group of people decides for themselves that they will adopt a certain dogma or religion it has nothing to do with reason whatsoever.
(After all one thing that religions have in common is that their is no proof evidence or foundation for their contents)
Therefore it is completely useless to go and try to change their minds by argument or reasoning. They've proven by the mere adoption of their beliefs that they are unreceptive to logic or reason.

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« Reply #237 on: May 21, 2006, 03:49:33 PM »
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Because if a group of people decides for themselves that they will adopt a certain dogma or religion it has nothing to do with reason whatsoever.
 


Ahhh ... confusing group mentality with individual choice. Only Atheists can be individuals. It's very "rebel" like. ;)

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« Reply #238 on: May 21, 2006, 04:12:36 PM »
I can`t find any scientific proof that atheism actualy exists. :)
I believe it is a farce.

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« Reply #239 on: May 21, 2006, 04:17:16 PM »
I suppose, then, that you must simply have faith.

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