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Offline BlueJ1

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« on: July 07, 2006, 06:03:37 PM »
Seeing how long this is after I typed it i dont blame yall if you dont read it. I wouldnt. Just felt good to vent.


For most of you this is just a rant. Maybe a few of you have had experience with this before and can relate. But I need to vent. Anyways, my goverment teacher is the most opinionated teacher and overall ahole Ive ever met in my life before. Its not his beliefs I have a problem with at all. Its the way as a school teacher he puts them across. My two examples below are poor examples of how he does this. You'd have to be in the class to get the full effect.

Yesterday (Day 2 of the class), In short he told me that joining the Navy was the easy way out. I asked him when he had served his country. He had no answer. Instead he told the class that joining the military is a waste of time and taxpayers money. I chose to not argue with him because I need this class to graduate.

Today (Day 3), we got on the topic of Collin Powell's war strategy. (Overwelming force and as fast as possible) He started complaining about the number of needless civilian casualties in war. He related it to Hiroshima and Nagisaki thinking no one in his class had any idea about either besides what they read in their history class. He asked my opinion on civilian casualties in war considering I will be in the military soon. I told him that any civilians that are killed in a war is a bad thing. But, if civilians are killed when our soldiers are attacking/bombing a target to shorten the war and save more lives then its acceptable. I then related that back to the end of WWII in Japan. I told him that more civilians had died in the firebombings then they did in either attack on Hiroshima and Nagisaki. These two attacks on Japanese cities was the final blow Japan's leaders needed to surrender and end the war. Both attacks shortened the war and most likely saved thousands if not millions of more lives. He then responded with "That view on civilian deaths in war makes me angry until Im blue in the face." He then stated, "That view will come around and bite you in the butt when your in the military." I had a few choice words for him but refrianed not wanting to fail the class in the second day. He then went on a rant to the class about how better morals should be taught in schools through religion, me being the example. After class walking in the hall I had 4 kids, all about a year younger then me, shake my hand and thank me for serving our country. Ive had adults do this before but never a teenager.  They have had this teacher before and said that no matter your opinion in his class you are always wrong. he gets off on proving kids wrong.


There are a few more things that hes said and done that I was angered over. But, this one pissed me off the most. I normally always respect others point of views and political views. But, when your in a teaching position and almost force feed your views on your students I then get angry.
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Offline Rolex

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« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2006, 06:20:38 PM »
Your post seems fishy to me, BlueJ1.

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« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2006, 06:21:50 PM »
No troll. Im good at being the fish. Not at throwing good bait.
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« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2006, 07:36:00 PM »
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They have had this teacher before and said that no matter your opinion in his class you are always wrong. he gets off on proving kids wrong.


Easy to do, but ultimately unfulfilling.

Opinions are like *******s. Everyone has one and most of them stink.

Had an instructor at college. Very opinionated and very left. Best thing to do with him was to go at him head on. He loved it. You couldn't count on having the last word. Afterall, it's his class. But the people that had informed opposing views and had the skill and the balls to stand up and debate with him usually did well on grades.
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« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2006, 07:50:36 PM »
The only thing your teacher might have been right about is that the Navy is the easy way out.  All those Navy guys do is ride around on air conditioned ships, eating gourmet meals 3 times a day, visiting exotic ports and smooching with foreign ladies.

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« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2006, 07:56:03 PM »
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The only thing your teacher might have been right about is that the Navy is the easy way out.  All those Navy guys do is ride around on air conditioned ships, eating gourmet meals 3 times a day, visiting exotic ports and smooching with foreign ladies.


No, he was wrong... and so are you. ;)
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« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2006, 09:28:34 PM »
Teachers are all godless communistic heathen preverts.  I know because Lazs told me.

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« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2006, 09:30:09 PM »
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Teachers are all godless communistic heathen preverts.  I know because Lazs told me.


What about aspiring teachers?

(Hides from Lazs :noid  )
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« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2006, 09:48:39 PM »
I know the feeling Bluej.  If he wants to be right in his own mind, that's fine.  You know what you want to do, that's the Navy, so go for it.  Teachers like that should be told to f*** off, then just do what you can in class.  Do your work, get good grades on tests, and pass.  What he says can only have as much meaning to you as you think it has.
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« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2006, 09:16:37 AM »
The fact that teachers are godless comunistic heathen perverts is not such a bad thing (we all have our faults)...

The bad thing is that we allow them to be around our children.

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« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2006, 01:06:35 PM »
Hmmmmm....

Had a college instructor doin even worse stuff.  Was continually preaching about how wonderfull the People Republic of China was.  Went at it with him over many things.  Including how nice the communist were to everyone, his opinion not mine.  Called him on that immediately.  Told him of some things his beloved communist had done, like the mass graves of teachers and such, I saw not far from Hue.  He didn't like that one at all. He finally took me outside the classroom and ..........

He felt I wouldn't get anything out of his class.  (Oh? Really?) Offered to give me a solid C if I would STOP coming to his class.  Was burnt out an .........  took his offer.  Maybe I shouldn't have????
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« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2006, 02:13:05 PM »
If a teacher can instill the value of education in kids, and make the kids actually want to learn, then they have succeeded.

I had a college professor instill that in me a few months after I had graduated high school.  Taught me that education allows us to make better decisions, that it can lead to happiness, and a more fulfilling life.  He was right.

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« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2006, 03:45:05 AM »
As long as he's not instilling his wiener into the students, good times.

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« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2006, 06:47:58 AM »
Teachers have a curriculum they are supposed to follow. The classroom is not the time or the place for their opinion. Just about my whole extended family are teachers and they would agree with me on this.

Our schools do poorly enough as it is, they should not be taking time out of the approved curriculum to try to brainwash the students. If they don't like what is approved to be taught, they can get on the curriculum council and work to rewrite the curriculum.

Like I said before classrooms are not public forums for political speech (unless that is what the course is designed for).

Besides, they better start to realize that they are GOVERNMENT employees, teaching in a govenment operated school. of course private colleges are a different beast altogether. If we were a less "free" society, teaching their opinions would most likely get them shot.
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« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2006, 07:03:50 AM »
Using one's position as a teacher to brow-beat students or attempt to brain wash them into accepting one's own beliefs is nothing more, and nothing less, than abuse of power.

The free exchange of ideas and opinion in the classroom should be a two- way street and the director of that debate should never use bullying, intellectual intimidation, or ridicule to stifle opposite opinions.
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