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Offline Gunston

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« Reply #135 on: July 16, 2006, 05:22:59 PM »
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I didn't take anything out of context I just did my own search on the Kennedy statement. Allow me to paste one of the items I found.

The war on individualism

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Posted: October 1, 2002
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© 2002 WorldNetDaily.com

We begin with two quotations. No attribution yet. Just the two quotes. You need to ponder over these while you read on.

Quote 1. "We must abolish the cult of the individual decisively, once and for all."

Quote 2. "We must stop thinking of the individual and start thinking about what's best for society."

Any guesses? The surprise comes later. You need to hold on a few more moments while we discuss the war against individuality.

Yes, a war – a war against the individual. A war that has been waged by the American left for decades.

Why, you might ask, would anyone want to fight the concept of individuality? Good question. Simple answer. Individualism must be fought and suppressed because the concept of the individual is completely incompatible with basic liberal doctrine.

Here's the rub. If you recognize the existence of the individual, it then follows that you must also recognize the concept of individual rights. Among those individual rights are such pesky little nuances as – dare we say it – property rights! Among those property rights would be what our founding fathers might call the right to the fruit of your labors, or what we in our less flowery age would call the money you earn by busting your buns 60 hours a week.

If, then, there is any recognition that you, as a real flesh and blood individual human being, have any right to the money you work for, what sort of excuse can the left come up with to seize those earnings for their wonderful vote-buying schemes?

So, you think I'm going a bit overboard here? Well, while you sit down and grip the arms of your chair for stability, let me tell you that a California congresswoman (Democrat, natch!) recently opined that all wages really belong to the federal government. How's that for individual property rights?

Not convinced? You still don't believe that there's a full-blown war on individuality raging around you? Well then, allow me to invoke the name of one of Washington's premier class warlords, none other than the Senate's Prince of Bloviation, Ted Kennedy. The unlikely event that brought forth this Kennedy gem was the New England Patriots' Super Bowl win earlier this year. Naturally, Kennedy wanted a part in the celebration, so he pushed his way to the television cameras to extol the value of teamwork. Amazingly, Kennedy tells the nation that the Patriots set a wonderful example for us all to follow at a time when we, in America, are engaged in a "war against the individual." His words, not mine. Go plow through The Boston Globe on the Monday following that Super Bowl win to find out for yourself. Do it! You need the research practice.

Driving the point home just a bit more, what do you think this whole "diversity" thing is all about? Diversity committees – diversity seminars – diversity directors. What's behind this sudden love of "diversity"? Easy enough. Diversity identity is group identity. Attention paid to diversity is attention paid to someone's group status, not their individual identity. When you are identified according to group status, any claim to individual rights, or worth, for that matter, fade into meaninglessness.

OK, before I run out of my word allotment, let's go back through history to see, other than Teddy Kennedy, just who we have out there blasting the concept of the individual. It's a rough ride. Hold on.

"There is the great, silent, continuous struggle: the struggle between the State and the Individual; between the State, which demands, and the individual, who attempts to evade such demands."

That gem is from our friend, Italian dictator Benito Mussolini.

"The main plank in the National Socialist program is to abolish the liberalistic concept of the individual and the Marxist concept of humanity and to substitute for them the folk community, rooted in the soil and bound together by the bond of its common blood."

The National Socialist bit should be your clue. Nazi was the acronym for Germany's national socialist party. That quote is from Adolf Hitler.

Now for the two quotes at the beginning of the column.

"We must abolish the cult of the individual decisively, once and for all." I left out the first word of this quote. That word is "Comrades!" This from the lips of none other than Nikita Khrushchev.

"We must stop thinking of the individual and start thinking about what is best for society."

Ahh. The best for last. The person who uttered those words is none other than the Democratic Party candidate for president in the year 2008. Our very own champion of socialized medicine, Hillary Clinton.

One more quote. A quickie from Ayn Rand: "The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities."

Can I get an Amen?

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« Reply #136 on: July 16, 2006, 05:42:13 PM »
Can I get a cookie to go with the Koolaid?
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« Reply #137 on: July 16, 2006, 05:49:59 PM »
Or how about this little snippet

Even the late Norman Thomas, who was elated when he saw FDR embrace and even introduce many of the policies he had advocated in his run for President under the Socialist Party banner, was aware of the transformation of the Democrat Party. In fact he has been quoted as saying:


"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of 'liberalism,' they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened." Norman Thomas, former U.S. Socialist Presidential Candidate

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« Reply #138 on: July 16, 2006, 05:50:49 PM »
Make it chocolate chip please.
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Offline Gunston

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« Reply #139 on: July 16, 2006, 05:51:06 PM »
Actually Kool-aid drinkers is the term the right uses about the left you guys should come up with your own.

Edit I did a search I guess both sides use it equally, also found someting else thanks Sandman. I got this little quote in my search and I feel your love err...hate anyway thanks

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You don't really have passionate users until someone starts accusing them of "drinking the koolaid." You might have happy users, even loyal users, but it's the truly passionate that piss off others enough to motivate them to say something. Where there is passion, there is always anti-passion... or rather passion in the hate dimension.

If you create passionate users, you have to expect passionate detractors. You should welcome their appearance in blogs, forums, and user groups. It means you've arrived. Forget the tipping point--if you want to measure passion, look for the koolaid point.    

Thanks again looks like I've arrrived.
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« Reply #140 on: July 16, 2006, 06:04:20 PM »
I'm all about your needs. I'm all about your happiness.

Glad I could be here to validate you.
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