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Offline Cabby44

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« Reply #75 on: November 04, 2001, 06:18:00 AM »
I thought a "Racist" was anyone who doesn't swallow the Leftist/Liberal/Socialist political view.........


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« Reply #76 on: November 04, 2001, 09:19:00 AM »
"my mom says there's a lot of black people in china."
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« Reply #77 on: November 04, 2001, 09:50:00 AM »
Nice you can wear your prejudice on your sleeve, creamo. Honesty really is a virtue.

And yet another rabid, ultra-right wing one-liner from cabby! Consistency is such an admirable quality, and you have it in spades.
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« Reply #78 on: November 04, 2001, 10:01:00 AM »
I'm always amazed at how many people are so eager to label people because they labeled people.

Seems bigotry and racism stem more from the inabillity to avoid placing a label on someone no matter how much they deserve it... or how much you can scientifically prove its accuracy.

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« Reply #79 on: November 04, 2001, 10:04:00 AM »
Dowding said "spades".

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« Reply #80 on: November 04, 2001, 11:22:00 AM »
Consistency is easy when you don't have to make things up as you go along.  Thanks for proving my "Ultra-Right Wing" point, Dowding......

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« Reply #81 on: November 04, 2001, 11:40:00 AM »
Thanks Dowding.

Coming from a man that "has a Bachelor and a Masters degree in Applied Physics" I can see being your friend will really pay off.

Loan me a theory, I need credit.   :rolleyes:

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« Reply #82 on: November 04, 2001, 11:41:00 AM »
To paraphrase a popular song:

"Commies to the left of me, Racists to the right, here I am
Stuck in the middle with you"
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« Reply #83 on: November 04, 2001, 02:17:00 PM »
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Nice you can wear your prejudice on your sleeve, creamo. Honesty really is a virtue.

would it have been more socially palatable if he had seen an italian gangster?

is it ok to be angry that guys in leisure suits and tacky camaros are in your hood, or maybe dudes with pinstripes and tommy guns or does that just apply to black, misunderstood gangsters?

come ride the bus in my town - you can preach tolerance to the gangsters that are holding you upside down shaking shillings outta you. or perhaps you can avoid them altogether by learning to recognize them?

it shouldn't be a crime to recognize them - if they are wearing a social uniform then why deny them the reconition they seek?

those clothes aren't chosen for no reason, their mom didn't take the to mervyns back to school shopping and say "here tyreese, wear this jersey that says -you my squeak, squeak- it'd look super on you!"

those duds have every bit the validity of a badge or a flag - they mean to tell a story. it is not wrong to listen. if the story is misunderstood then maybe you arent telling it good enough.

slinging your pants around your ankles, limping, scowling and wearing a little do-rag are clear symbols, creamo'd be pretty clueless not to know that. naivity is rewarded in this culture, i swear.

even if the kid isn't a gangster he's trying to say "look at me, i am a hard gangster and believe in that lifestyle watch your step because i'm baaaaad, i'm bad, sha-mon oh!"

my boss is black. he takes no guff from anyone because he created himself. i respect his unwillingness to be what the world expects him to be "either a ghetto ganster or a sell ou uncle tom" he is neither and it shows. i respect him immensely.

he doesnt look like a gangster, he looks like an average joe, not a white wanna be just neutral. no one is going to see him in a neighborhood and recoil in horror because they know better. give people a little credit for having common sense!

good grief, i mean maybe people were that unjust in alabama 1949, but in this modern era and no one is flipping out because they see some harmless black guy... but most people know a ganster/gangster wannabe when they see one.

that tired old after school special is getting old - "oh he looked like a gangster but he was really a future nobel laureate and nobody would give him a chance"....."oh it's ok mrs. dawson, i'll just go work hard at mcdonalds and try not to sling caine...sniiff cry cry"

lol come on, use your head man.it is a new era and those old cop outs are no less valid than the stereotypes they were meant to usurp. the world didnt stop evolving in 1969 it's time to reintroduce common sense.


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« Reply #84 on: November 04, 2001, 03:12:00 PM »
lol Creamo - how could me having a degree in physics have anything to do with your particular prejudice?

As far as I know, my statement in relation to you was stating fact. You said as much in your preceeding post. And honesty remains a virtue.

I am distraught you won't be my friend, by the way.

 
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Consistency is easy when you don't have to make things up as you go along. Thanks for proving my "Ultra-Right Wing" point, Dowding......

You're a one track record, cabby. I'm sorry to say that - but it's true. Every post you make is the same; any problem/conflict must be the fault of some mythical pinko/socialistic/commie/liberal conspiracy. There's no variation to what you say. And what you say generally amounts to very little.

In your eyes, the world was a perfect place before Das Kapital.
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« Reply #85 on: November 04, 2001, 09:08:00 PM »
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"In your eyes, the world was a perfect place before Das Kapital. "

The world has never been a perfect place and never will be. To borrow Red Ant's tack:

"Talking 'bout a world where all is free, it just couldn't be, only a fool would say that..."

Or some cockeyed Liberal/Socialist weenie......

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« Reply #86 on: November 05, 2001, 06:02:00 AM »
Given that socialism is a recent development, don't you think many of the world's problems are just old issues with a modern spin on them? To blame them on a modern political ideology rather than their true origins is a bit short sighted.

What amazes me is your ability to link everything to left wing politics, like some characature of a right wing nutter.
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« Reply #87 on: November 05, 2001, 06:44:00 AM »
Well.... this thread reminds me of CNN... over and over and over and over and over and over... so I'm gonna go pee.


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Of course, I only see what he posts here and what he does in the MA.  I know virtually nothing about the man.  I think its important for people to realize that we don't really know squat about each other.... definately not enough to use words like "hate".

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« Reply #88 on: November 05, 2001, 11:18:00 AM »
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Originally posted by easymo:
"Now I have no guaranteed future"

  Now you sound like an American.  Although the true translation into American would be.  " Now I have no limit on my future.  I can make of it what I will".

Easymo, you are absolutely right. At least that's how I try to look at the things, and it's an argument I usually say to communists who miss the sausage for 2.20.

Anton, I don't advocate Soviet regime, but I see many positive sides of what happened here before 1991. Like really good education, scientific programs, etc.

And I get absolutely mad when the cold-war propaganda picturing us as a nation of slaves and concentration camps is the ONLY thing people know about my country. All this "gulag" roadkill, "evil Stalin", etc. We were people, not the stupid creatures in fur hats from Hollywood movies. People lived according to some rules that were different from Western. You know - like comparing Moslims with Christians. "Communism is evil, period". And noone ever wants to understand WHY it was evil! OTOH - what we have now is veery far from the happy view onto "capitalism" that we had in late-80s, in times of "destroyka".

Let me finish with another joke from the 70s:

Americans: "You don't have butter in stores!"
Russians: "And you opress blacks!" (хотел написать "негров", но меня тут с говном съедят  :))
Americans: "And you don't have meat in your food-stores too!"
Russians: "And you keep Indians in resrvations!"
Americans: "And we, we... We'll kidnap your Brezhnev!"
Russians: "OK, you're welcome! Then you'll never see meat and butter in foodstores too!"

 ;)

To Hangtime: I didn't think you were in Vietnam. Sorry. I am the last person who'll blame you for what you did there: you served your country. My hat off for you and your comrades (I mean the real meaning of this word).

I was in the US 12 years ago, and believe me - I really liked your country and people. Attitude to Soviet students was as friendly as it could be.

And I don't think that America is "currently carrying out an unjust war for all the wrong reasons". I never said it. I only hate double-standards. We are in this war for almost ten years now. I wish it could like this again, and I still think it's possible:

 

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« Reply #89 on: November 05, 2001, 11:42:00 AM »
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and there are many factors that will affect performance on these assessments that have nothing to do with intelligence.  You can't give a westernized IQ test to someone from Somalia and expect them to perform well on it.

 Have you stopped reading books before or after the phlogiston theory was disspelled?   :)
 Not all the progress of the last 130 years was in astronomy and physics.

 There are myriads of tests that do not involve culture-related knowlege or, in fact, concious decision that are highly corellated with IQ level.

 StSanta - in "getting the facts straigh" I ment which traits are proven to be genetically inheritable and which were not.
 For all practical purposes lazyness is not inheritable while temperament and especially intelligence is. So there are no "lazy" nations though there are "smart".

 I suggest you read "The g Factor" by Arthus Jensen and "The Bell Curve - intelligence and class structure in American society" by Herrnstein and Murray.
 Also try "The Mismeasure of Man" by S. Gould for a bit of opposing view.

 It is a good two thousand pages total and about a hundred dollars worth (get the latest editions - they are updated in view of the ongoing polemics).
 Definitely a must read for a person who wants to go through life with open eyes.
 Lots of practical implications if you plan to have family/children.

 I will post an overview of Jensen's book in a separate post in a few days.

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