Originally posted by Angus
The "game" is maybe better put as "fight".
Anyway, my point was, to try to make it clear, - that the "fight" is lost if the lot of the civilianz needs to be armed because of armed thugs.
It is the
right of the civilian to be armed. Nothing is lost. Still don`t get how you figure that. Some of us here sort of like to at least have a chance to control our own destiny, so to speak. We don`t like to be at others mercy, including government. Choice/ freedom. For those living in countries where this freedom is not enjoyed, they are at the mercy and whim of not only the criminal, but also the government. We don`t look at the law enforcement agencies as our baby sitter, nanny or personal security guard. They are not. (It`s a good thing in my fair county that it`s not that way also. We`d be in BIG trouble if it was.
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The US is in that poddle, most western countries and a good block of the asian countries are not.
LOL Asisan countries. You can`t tell me you are seriously buying the Confucious beetle bit.
I`ll take the U.S. any day, thanks. Not into socialism, communism, nannyism or living in tyranny. For some strange reason those countries seem to be the ones we always have to pull fat out of the fire for.
BTW, in our case here, we didn't give up our rights to have a weapon, it's just the handguns.
Hear that chipping sound? It`s not the polar bears digging for food.
That is rather unhandy for the thugs, for one does not go far in the streets with a long barreled weapon around the sholder
The main thing you are missing here is the simple fact that you cannot limit or keep the criminal from having the weapon of choice if he desires to be armed. Handgunds, long arms, fully auto, grenades, slingshots ore explosives. If he wants em, he will have them. You can only limit and stop the citizen from the tools he needs to protect himself and others. Why make it easier for the armed criminal or criminal in general?
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Auto pulls into a parking lot of a 7/11, liquor store....or up next to the sidewalk where John Q. Citizen is walking . Out steps one, two , three, etc. punks with shotguns or whatever. If the citizens are not armed it`s a given from that point forward. Taking a big biscuit and sopping gravy. Easy money. No deterent of any kind what so ever.
On the other hand if there is a possibility that at least someone is armed, first of all, it gives S.H. Punk something to think about. Has a tendency to deter quite a few.
The only thing accomplished by taking the right of the citizen away to carry a handgun is to make things easier for the criminal. A cakewalk.
I recently witnessed a great example of what the armed citizen can accomplish when armed. A 72 year old man on a golf cart, a friend of mine, never had to fire a shot to totaly do a melt down on four mid 20`s, Clyde Barrow wannabees, two of which were armed and brandishing their weapons........Gangsta Style. When he pulled up on the golf cart and it became known that he was armed, it was potty time for Bonzo. It gave a whole new meaning to hip hop.
