Author Topic: 8 stabbed at grocery store, co-worker arrested (Read 4395 times)

Rolex · « **Reply #30 on:** July 22, 2006, 10:29:36 PM »

~~to the guy and others like him who don't have to get involved, but choose to.~~

Vulcan · « **Reply #31 on:** July 22, 2006, 10:57:28 PM »

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Originally posted by GtoRA2
Yeah we only care about the USA's gun laws since we still trust our people and believe in freedom around here.

You can keep your countries gun laws, we will take freedom. Thanks.

While your gun laws are a necessary evil, I don't think it reflects in any way 'freedom'. To hang the 'freedom' lable around the barrel of your gun laws probably means you have your own doubts as well. Whats so hard about saying 'we need our guns because violant crime involving weapons is a significant problem here'?

Vudak · « **Reply #32 on:** July 22, 2006, 11:45:04 PM »

Well, you know, they didn't allow any weapons in Rome, and look what happened there. Caesar marches down with 1 Legion and *poof!* goes the Republic (yes, I know, condensed version).

Maybe architecture wasn't the only lesson our Founding Fathers took from Rome?

Dago · « **Reply #33 on:** July 22, 2006, 11:48:47 PM »

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Originally posted by Vulcan
While your gun laws are a necessary evil, I don't think it reflects in any way 'freedom'. To hang the 'freedom' lable around the barrel of your gun laws probably means you have your own doubts as well. Whats so hard about saying 'we need our guns because violant crime involving weapons is a significant problem here'?

How about saying the right to bear arms is one of the basic rights our founding fathers protected when this country was born, and we choose to keep that among with all our other freedoms. We are not anyones colony, we dont bow to any freaking king or queen, we can defend our homes from enemies foreign or domestic, and we like it that way.

Violent crime isn't a significant problem to the overwhelming majority of Americans, and one of the reasons for that is we are able to defend ourselves.

Leslie · « **Reply #34 on:** July 23, 2006, 01:38:01 AM »

He didn't shoot the guy after he threw his knife down. Gotta give him credit for that, in addition to his taking quick action and saving some people from possibly getting killed. The risk that was mentioned probably meant the hesitation factor that most people experience. He did risk his life, but he did it to stop a knife weilding madman. Hell yes he's a hero. Not a good idea to leave a pistol in the truck unattended, but he ran out there and got it. Someone had to do something about that situation fast.

Les

Pongo · « **Reply #35 on:** July 23, 2006, 02:49:01 AM »

lol
Those 8 people were probably saved by a gun law.

Leslie · « **Reply #36 on:** July 23, 2006, 03:00:06 AM »

You think the knife weilder couldn't get his hands on a gun because of a gun law?

Les

Pooh21 · « **Reply #37 on:** July 23, 2006, 03:57:02 AM »

remember the criminal will ignore the gun law? hmm is not stabbing people against the law, he ignored the stabbing law, why would he obeyed the gun law.

Oh Eureka01 what is your opinion on domestic violence after a drunken binge?z.B. breaking a domestic partners arm or something?

AWMac · « **Reply #38 on:** July 23, 2006, 04:03:57 AM »

Beet1e got banned? What happened?

Mac

Shuckins · « **Reply #39 on:** July 23, 2006, 06:31:47 AM »

The English are supposed to know how to use the article "the" to precede a noun in a sentence. After all, it's their language, isn't it.

Beet, ya gotta do better than this...not posting your location...using a pisant "foreign" dialect.

Where's Lionel Twain when we need him?

Jackal1 · « **Reply #40 on:** July 23, 2006, 07:53:08 AM »

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Originally posted by Toad
I'm waiting for the inevitable "toodle-pip".

Must keep cover Grasshopper.
It would be 'noodle pip".

lazs2 · « **Reply #41 on:** July 23, 2006, 09:45:12 AM »

pongo... I also got to ask... Do you think that those people were saved by a gun law that kept the guy from getting a gun?

How were they "saved" in any case? You realize that the chance of survival in a handgun attack and a knife attack are roughly equal at about 80% survival rate?

lazs

Leslie · « **Reply #42 on:** July 23, 2006, 10:17:55 AM »

Knife attacks and gun attacks are very different. With a knife there may be some chance, and worth the resistence far as survival. Gun is a different matter. No chance unless very lucky.

Les

Maverick · « **Reply #43 on:** July 23, 2006, 12:56:12 PM »

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Originally posted by AWMac
Beet1e got banned? What happened?

Mac

I believe he went off on Skuzzy in one of the threads around the 4th. He got moderated and then shot himself in the foot with the skuzzmeister. Darn good shooting as far as I am concerned.

Maverick · « **Reply #44 on:** July 23, 2006, 12:58:33 PM »

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Originally posted by Pongo
lol
Those 8 people were probably saved by a gun law.

Pongo,

Please let us know which law came up and stopped the attack on those people. According to my reading it was a man with a gun that stopped it and saved them. Perhaps you can point out just where the law entered into the act. I doubt that the guy doing the hacking and slashing really cared about any laws as that behavior is against the law. Didn't seem to be stopping him in the least however.

Now if you are expounding on the right to carry law, I could agree with you partially however it still took a man (generic term here not sexist designation) with a gun to stop it.