Author Topic: HT Please Hurry with TOD or CT Whatever It's called (Read 4938 times)

Guppy35 · « **Reply #60 on:** August 31, 2006, 11:54:57 AM »

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Originally posted by soupcan
does this mean you have tried to recruit a number of fellow furballers

and could not muster support?

No, what he means is, eventually you have to land and rearm and the horde has generally clobbered the place so you can't re-up unless the vulch pattern is on and then it's so the horde can get quick 'kills' so they can land their 'attaboys' to all that aclaim.

And with the fields further apart, by the time you can get the defenders up from the nearest field and get back to defend, the horde is milling about above you and the field is taken or close to it.

Sadly regardless of someones ACM skills, there is little they can do against a mob with alt and E. Just off the ground with the wheels barely up and trying to gain flying speed is hardly a position to fight in. Even if you can avoid the first passes, the horde is lined up waiting for you to get engaged with another plane so they can dive in and pick you.

You want to play it that way, fine. But give me satellite fields where fighters can up from, close enough to make a difference. Give me VHs at the satellite fields so I can roll the flaks to defend. Up the number of manned ack guns at the base and increase their toughness. Do this to allow the defenders time to react to all those horde taking the undefended base ops.

Make taking a base difficult so folks have to work at it. Make it a challenge. There were reasons the general policy in strafing fields was one pass and keep going in WW2. Lots and lots of guys went down making that second pass.

In AH, the manned ack and VH goes first so there is no ack. The flak guns aren't camoflaged to make spotting them harder. They are right where everyone knows they are.

All the mission jockeys talk about coordinated planning. OK this ups the challenge. You are covering 3 fields, with intense flak and the potential for fighters upping from any of them to cover the main base. Not quite as easy for 6 guys in 110s and a goon to get the job done. It would take bomber coordination, fighter sweeps and escorts as well as jabos. You are all about win the war, well then you'd surely enjoy the challenge of having to actually work at it

macleod01 · « **Reply #61 on:** August 31, 2006, 12:21:18 PM »

~~That~~

Stang · « **Reply #62 on:** August 31, 2006, 12:24:22 PM »

What Dan said.

soupcan · « **Reply #63 on:** August 31, 2006, 12:44:35 PM »

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Originally posted by Guppy35
You are all about win the war, well then you'd surely enjoy the challenge of having to actually work at it

it may surprize you to learn that "win the war" is not very high on
my list. while i do enjoy a good base capture, i will earn more "perks"
from a couple of flights in my hurr2c or fw190a8 than i will from a reset.
somedays i like upping to "hunt" buff formations, other times i go looking for some fighter to fighter action. just depends on my mood at the time.

while it does seem immpossible to fight the horde, there have been
times when several messages have gone out on country channel
saying:
" a45 a goner"
"hopeless at a45" ect.
a few of us not worried about being vultched managed to get up
at this field and slowly take the enemy numbers down to the point
they had lost effective cap...couple more friendlys showed up and
soon the field was secure.

i'm not saying that you can break cap in every situation, but if you
can get enough friendlys together it can change it from immpossible
to possible.

BTW guppy35 i have read many of your posts...some of them i have agreed with. one thing i have always found about your posts is that you state
your position without insulting others. i respect this about you.

DipStick · « **Reply #64 on:** August 31, 2006, 01:01:04 PM »

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Originally posted by mars01
When Fester MA first came out, all the fields were close together and the fights raged.

Last time I had fun ingame.

MotorOil1 · « **Reply #65 on:** August 31, 2006, 01:14:30 PM »

I'm not a huge fan of the big maps and long flights inbetween battles where you're lucky to get 2 kills.

Mars, now that you've ticked off Superfly and slowed the production of TD you're not going to want to be seen in the MA. The hordes will be after you! lol

Sounds like you need a good DA for an exended time. Then you'll be revived and ready for the hordes.

mars01 · « **Reply #66 on:** August 31, 2006, 01:53:40 PM »

Once again on the money Dan.

OK Flayed,

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Well I'll stop typing now and post this so you can berate me and my post for going aginst your idea of how things should work and my squad for playing the way we play.

Awww your such a victim. LOL Please. But since you asked for it.

I don't berate anyone that is actively participating in a neutral manner. I save that for the guys that reply with their zingers and then cry when I zing back. Much like your baloney above.

Your whole post is wrong because you base everything on the incorrect premise that I want the MA to be nothing but one big furball. In all my posts I have said time and time again that you land grab heros should have your game and a place to play it in the MA.

The root of the problem is, in HTs rush to increase membership he has dummied down the game and Furballing is a thing of the past.

Now lets put the shoe on your foot, imagine how you would feel if tomorrow you logged in and your Land Grab game was gone. No more captures, no more resets. That is exactly what the furballer is faced with. Furballs are a thing of the past.

The next place you go wrong is thinking I want the MA changed in such a way that it takes others players, playing style away. Again you are wrong. I'll post my last part here again to see if it sinks this time.

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Originally Posted By: Mars01
So please HT finish CT so these tards will gravitate there or put a FT on all maps and make it mandatory for all new maps.

Now how would having a FT on every map stop your fun??

Give the furballer a place to play, so we are not forced into your mindless base capture horde fest and you will never hear from me again on this topic.

mars01 · « **Reply #67 on:** August 31, 2006, 01:54:31 PM »

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Sounds like you need a good DA for an exended time. Then you'll be revived and ready for the hordes.

LOL Motor - When you have a good solution to beat a 15 Vs 1, that doesn't entail running or starting at 30k feet, let me know.

BTW what is your in game ID??

FX1 · « **Reply #68 on:** August 31, 2006, 02:00:30 PM »

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Originally posted by MotorOil1
I'm not a huge fan of the big maps and long flights inbetween battles where you're lucky to get 2 kills.

Mars, now that you've ticked off Superfly and slowed the production of TD you're not going to want to be seen in the MA. The hordes will be after you! lol

Sounds like you need a good DA for an exended time. Then you'll be revived and ready for the hordes.

Mars spends his time in the DA.. Also he is a good stick BTW

MotorOil1 · « **Reply #69 on:** August 31, 2006, 02:04:00 PM »

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Originally posted by mars01
LOL Motor - When you have a good solution to beat a 15 Vs 1, that doesn't entail running or starting at 30k feet, let me know.

BTW what is your in game ID??

MoterOil

BTW - 10k works. ---> I know what you mean, there's no good way in the ma to just up and be in a good fight. Small maps are the cloesest thing.

lazs2 · « **Reply #70 on:** August 31, 2006, 02:16:07 PM »

flayed... I don't think we are talking about yours or any squad... We never heard of you guys...

Yep... the furballers don't look at any squad as the problem cause we really don't pay attention to who is in the horde... I never heard of you guys..

If I up to fight the horde I kill three of four of the talentless dweebs and they seem to be from all sorts of squads... I never know... it just says that I have killed some talentless vulture... don't say what squad he was in... I don't care anyway.

Furballers never organize... that would be the opposite of what they are about... But...

I am allways curious... if the whorde guys are not timid and talentless as we say.... How come they never "organize" to attack another horde?

All I see is them running when they lose the advantage to go find another place that they can vultch without having to take any risk with actual air to air combat.

lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's

Guppy35 · « **Reply #71 on:** August 31, 2006, 02:41:50 PM »

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Originally posted by soupcan
it may surprize you to learn that "win the war" is not very high on
my list. while i do enjoy a good base capture, i will earn more "perks"
from a couple of flights in my hurr2c or fw190a8 than i will from a reset.
somedays i like upping to "hunt" buff formations, other times i go looking for some fighter to fighter action. just depends on my mood at the time.

while it does seem immpossible to fight the horde, there have been
times when several messages have gone out on country channel
saying:
" a45 a goner"
"hopeless at a45" ect.
a few of us not worried about being vultched managed to get up
at this field and slowly take the enemy numbers down to the point
they had lost effective cap...couple more friendlys showed up and
soon the field was secure.

i'm not saying that you can break cap in every situation, but if you
can get enough friendlys together it can change it from immpossible
to possible.

BTW guppy35 i have read many of your posts...some of them i have agreed with. one thing i have always found about your posts is that you state
your position without insulting others. i respect this about you.

Most definately don't mean to offend so I'm glad it comes across respectfully. It is just a game in the end after all. Not worth getting worked up about

Incidently, the 'you' in the post wasn't aimed specifically at you. It was more aimed at the crowd that likes the base capture/horde warrior aspect of the game.

Lye-El · « **Reply #72 on:** August 31, 2006, 03:58:43 PM »

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Originally posted by macleod01
I have an idea to stop the idea of hordes and also to get a furball on the go. How about, when you see an enemy horde approaching, you get a horde together and meet them in the air! This will get a furball started on a massive scale. Imagine, 50v50 fights! HUGE! This also allows those not interested in furballs to get a friend and fight away at a differant base 1v1. Simple solution.

£0.02p In

That was called the AntiHorde Horde. Old News.

Flayed1 · « **Reply #73 on:** August 31, 2006, 06:00:06 PM »

Well mars we've had this debate befor and we never agree so we can agree to disagree.

LAZS umm are you trying to be sarcastic or funny or something????

Birds Of Prey..... Mars posted about the night of the 28'th I belive, the day of our squad night while we were rolling bases all night and having good fun doing it.

I belive we are the horde in question on the 28'th. Sullie and I posted to that effect and mars replied with "You guys calling your Squad nights potatods arent really that impressive and have little to be proud of. If that was what I had to look foreword to on squad night, I'd quit!"

And we were all quite proud of what we did that night.

macleod01 · « **Reply #74 on:** August 31, 2006, 06:04:35 PM »

Flayed, how many bases did you take that night? If it was quite a few, id be proud as well! I enjoy taking bases but having a good fight is also fun. If you meet some people in the air its brilliant. (Even though I always end up getting a close shot of a tree as i do a low Loop)