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Offline SFCHONDO

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« Reply #15 on: September 02, 2006, 02:28:50 AM »
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How many times did they try Polesti style raid.  OHHH they they tried it wonce with B-26's and lost every one.

Come on now.  Low level Buff boxes are not good for the game.  And no way are they historical.  Other than a few tries.


Got to disagree, Low level bombing raids where done more than once and they survied. Watch this movie and it will show you how we constantly low level bombed Kiska Island in Alaska during WWII. It's pretty long, just move the scroll toward the very end if you don't want to watch it all. The end show them doing one of there low level raids and even the gunners where straffing the field as they flew by.


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« Reply #16 on: September 02, 2006, 02:37:19 AM »
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Low level isn't crap, it was an actual tactic used by actual bombers in an actual war.




Some of my favorite WW II stories are the ones where the Brits sent 3 Lancasters time and again to drop 14k of bombs on one tank. How those brave pilots would practically bring their bombers to a crawl at treetop level, jump to F3 view mode, and let loose blowing themselves up in the process. It was the only way to kill German tanks really. Thats some good reading.:aok

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« Reply #17 on: September 02, 2006, 03:35:43 AM »
4 engine bombers or any bombers that didn't dive bomb should blow up if they drop their bombs at an angle.  There's already a post that gives all the info you'll need to implement this.
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« Reply #18 on: September 02, 2006, 03:58:15 AM »
HAH! Pork my ords all you want, I launch six sectors MINIMUM from my target, and cruise at 25,000!!! Then again, its not Buffs like my Thunderbird that upset you is it?

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« Reply #19 on: September 02, 2006, 06:25:41 AM »
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A solution for low level Buff groups


We don't need a solution for that. Low buffs ARE the solution. The other solution is a bucket of soapy frogs.

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« Reply #20 on: September 02, 2006, 06:28:15 AM »
F4U1-C is the solution to low level buffs.
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« Reply #21 on: September 02, 2006, 06:38:44 AM »
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F4U1-C is the solution to low level buffs.


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« Reply #22 on: September 02, 2006, 06:42:55 AM »
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What's wrong with low level lanc groups?

It's an easy 3 kill sortie.


I'm with you, I love the low level buffs.

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« Reply #23 on: September 02, 2006, 07:01:00 AM »
On the map last night around the line of V-bases we had sometimes 3-4 groups of Lancs or 24's all dive bombing the hangers and such.  I just parked on a hill at the end of the tree line and laid out some fire.... one by one they all went down.  They are easy kills but it does get stupid when you get guys dropping 42k worth of eggs on you from a set of Lancs.
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« Reply #24 on: September 02, 2006, 07:37:35 AM »
early attack and destruction is the solution to low level buffs.  up a big nosed Bf110 and go hunting.  while there are other capable platforms in the game for effective buff suppression, such as the Mossie, C-hog, P47 La7 and the Fw190 A8 with the 30mm option I don't believe any are equally close to delivering the withering firepower the big nosed Bf110 has to offer.

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« Reply #25 on: September 02, 2006, 08:48:28 AM »
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... drop a line of eggs announced before hand simply right down the runway so as not to disrupt the fighter hangers. ...
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Actually ;-)

that wouldn't be bad if we "could" damage the runway ;-) Then we wouldnt have to drop the hangers...just blow the crap outta the runways and taxi ways...so no one could take off ;-)

Then after taking the base fly in the CB's to smooth it out ;-)

Kewl Idea! ;-)

reminds me of my very first drop in AH1.   I ripped that runway to shreds...only to watch in amazement as fighters rolled right through the craters ... up to my bombers and tore me a new one.  Since then I just laugh when I hear anyone say "reality."

Gimme back my guns convergence on my bombers please ;-) ha ha ha

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« Reply #26 on: September 02, 2006, 08:52:11 AM »
I guess some one lost a tiger

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« Reply #27 on: September 02, 2006, 09:14:54 AM »
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What's wrong with low level lanc groups?

It's an easy 3 kill sortie.


Yes, and if any Bish are being bothered by low flying buffs while I'm online please give me a shout. :)

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« Reply #28 on: September 02, 2006, 11:13:47 AM »
:cry :cry i cant up a fighter for 15min what shall I do!!!!:cry :cry

   1. low lancs r easy kills.
   2. hangers only stay down for 15 i think we could all go 15 min with out fighters :)
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« Reply #29 on: September 02, 2006, 12:28:21 PM »
The tactics in this game will never be the same as WW2, If a Lanc gets anywhere near an nme base below 5000ft, then you must not control the airspace, hence you will be bombed by low buffs {not trying to be a jerk just comes naturaly}, but even if you remove the drone option its still not gonna stop it, even if you make it where any negative angle more than 15 degrees wont let buff drop ord, your still gona see guys boring in from 5k, and dropping lvl....

Ploesti B24 raid was more of an inteligence failure than a tactical one, I read that prior to launching raids allied command was issuing bullitins to anti air artillery that a forthcoming raid of B24's would be launching, hence tipping the germans off via radio {in the clear no less!}, Plus the pilots as I recall had minimal low level navigation experience, and many of the flights where missing the target or dropping on parts of the oil field that had allready been hit,,bad luck all around,
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