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« Reply #525 on: September 17, 2006, 09:39:05 PM »
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Anyone have a better idea than mine?

1. leave the original MA exactly the way it was, but no cap

2. have the EW and MW just as they are now, except add duplicate arenas after 90% of 250 cap.


Even Lazs should approve.


I think what HTC did is far better than your idea. Pyro said they made the changes due to the health of the MA. Now wether you belive that or not, thats the reason they gave :D  I happen to agree with them. For years the the game play has become more and more stagnet. You either joined the horde, or were trampled by it. You flew the "uber" planes, or you got creamed by a bunch of them. Either possition doesn't really sound like fun to me.

I've flown sims for years AW, FA, WB, AH and I've never seen it get this bad. The game was turning into  one of those first person shooter games my kids play.... jump into the room firering everything you got as you dodge, roll, and leap your way thru a room... hoping you make it, and if you don't you try it over and over and over! There is no skill, just luck. AH had turned into pretty much the same thing, up a plane with the horde chase down a bad guy WITH the horde ducking and dodging hoping not to get kill shot and praying you get enough rounds into him before the other 12 guys do. If not, you up a new plane and try again, over and over, and over.

Now with the multiple arenas the fights are back! 1 vs 1 1 vs 2. People congratulate and salute each other from country to country, they come back again and again to fight the same 3 guys, some time winning, some times not. I havn't seen the "land grab" much, but have hooked up with a couple other to grab a base or two. Spent over an hour with 3-4 others trying to take a Vbase from 3-4 LTAR's lots of fun had by all.

You guys who have only flown a year or so don't know the trill of real compitition in the arenas. All you know is the horde. I've flow both, and let me tell you the "old way" was much better. How do you think these "old timers""vets" got to be so good?  The compition is better when your not in the horde, when the fight comes down to YOUR skill, not being saved by 15 "friendly's" trying to cherry pick the guy on your butt.... with out giving you a check 6 I might add  :)

My vote, should HTC ever call for one is surely to go for the new arenas, as the old MA was getting really old.

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« Reply #526 on: September 17, 2006, 09:43:53 PM »
my guess is that new squads will evolve and choose certain arenas to excell at.
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« Reply #527 on: September 17, 2006, 10:40:13 PM »
LOL busted shadez!

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« Reply #528 on: September 17, 2006, 10:56:30 PM »
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when AH2 went live, and people realized they'd need to upgrade computers and have better hardware than before, numbers dropped dramatically. There was a great deal of panic then, as people prophecied the immediate death of HTC.

But let's not forget that after AHII came out, and more and more eye candy was added, there was a great deal of panic, that panic eventually led to the implementing of the optimization code that helped to solve a lot of the FR problems, precisely because people moaned and groaned that AHII as presented, was driving a lot of people away.
Now this shows, that like any good business, HTC recognized that they were in danger of losing loyal customers and did something to address the problem.
But it also shows that HTC is not the great and powerful Oz, always right and never making a mistake.
That's why these forums are valuable, because when they do have a problem, they get immediate and impassioned feedback.
For a couple of months now they'd been hearing from the horde haters about how the game was going to hell in a handbasket.
Now they are hearing from the people who don't like the new setup.
Sure, some hate it just on principal, but there are others who are saying that the changes as implemented, contain fundamental flaws (such as the screwed up ENY, the problem of being able to fly with your virtual friends  and the way that the community is spread over so many arenas that sometimes it is just plain boring out there) that must be addressed ASAP so folks can settle down and give this thing a real chance.

People might not like change, but people who are happily flying don't have time to haunt the boards.



Not one of those problems is reason enough to ditch this whole thing, but they are things that should have been addressed a week ago, and since they were not, they should be addressed with all possible speed.

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« Reply #529 on: September 18, 2006, 01:20:54 AM »
The idea of squads settling into a "preferred" arena should happen pretty rapidly. That may allow HTC to modify-somewhat- the size of the arenas without returning to the prior problems. All in all I'm pleased with the changes.
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« Reply #530 on: September 18, 2006, 01:33:27 AM »
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new system is taking man power away and turning the arenas into non fluid fighter fests, though im sure this is fine with most i for one am sick of fighting over A43 in the only arena where i can fly every plane, late-war should have an expanded # allowable, nice try with the new format but its killing the war aspect of the game...


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i completely disagree....

have been flying in midwar arena and have not found any shortage
of fights/captures ect, EVEN with the low numbers.

want a fight? check dar bar/base flashing.

sorry but i haven't found the "war aspect" to have died at all.

lastly you say your sick of fighting over a43.....
guess what...GO somewhere else on the map then ..yikes.

i cant believe i'm gonna  say this but it seems i'm starting to warm up to some of laz's comments. whats the world coming to?
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« Reply #531 on: September 18, 2006, 01:36:10 AM »
o ya missed 1 comment.....

u say u must fly in the arena with all planes enabled....

please do tell what your most common ride is.
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« Reply #532 on: September 18, 2006, 05:39:34 AM »
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Originally posted by Enduro
This may have been asked for a thousand times already, but here's request # 1,001:

We definitely need a command that finds all online squaddies.
example: .L =GHOSTS= would list all the Ghosts that are online & the arenas that they're in.

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What would really help to find your squadies would for the roster to list all players and what arena they are in. It would like one stop shopping.


In the "Roster" page on the clipboard add a button "other areana" then you can select to view the roster of any other areana. I'm not sure how simple is this to implement though.
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« Reply #533 on: September 18, 2006, 05:43:22 AM »
I still say HTC needs to put 1 arena and just make it a role plane set, then that will make up the 3 arena's when planes r out and what not and give every1 a chance to fly early,mid and late planes. and keep all planes out also. I have it like the old MA but with a twist..roll plane set. plain and simple.

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« Reply #534 on: September 18, 2006, 06:07:53 AM »
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Originally posted by ByeBye
Lets say we have only one arena, and all planes are enabled .

That would be a completely open arena, and anyone could fly whatever plane they wanted. Laz had that arena, but he said that it destroyed his choices? LOL!

Laz, what you really wanted was a nanny arena, so you could fly your Fm2 ( which was available before) and not have all the better planes bothering you. Am I reading you correctly?

That areana, you had before and still have. Its name was changed from "main areana" to "late war". YOUR options have not changed.

On the other hand, what were your options if you wanted to fly P40B or JU87? In principle you COULD fly them in the old MA but how fun is it to fight planes whose stall speed is close to you cruise speed? about 2/3 of AH plane set was crowned "hangar queens".

So yes, now you do have more options. You can go to the LWA and keep doing what you were doing, or try MWA/EWA and fly a hangar queen with the other royalty and actually enjoy it. just look at it! people are having a blast with wildcats, P40s, 109E. When was the last time you saw B5N, SBD, Stuka used as attack planes?
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« Reply #535 on: September 18, 2006, 06:48:20 AM »
Bozon,

if we had not the actual arena limits you would see 80% of players entering the arena with the biggest numbers, no matter what phase of war it is. Thats the way it was and thats the reason why the AvA and DA were almost always empty.

I dont like our new early war arena. We miss so many [edit] 1940-41 fighters and bombers that the plane set is filled even with Spitfire IX and 190A-5. Now someone is even asking for the F4U-1 ... go figure.
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« Reply #536 on: September 18, 2006, 07:25:55 AM »
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It's called "forgetting to log out of your shade"

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« Reply #537 on: September 18, 2006, 07:35:56 AM »
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Originally posted by Iron_Cross
For those who think  that you had "choice" in the old MA, what drugs are you taking?  The only choice you had was the LA-7, NIK1, or Spit XVI.  You ither flew the ubercannon machines, or you were fodder for them, that is some choice. Fly with the 40-50 strong horde, or get pounded into snail snot by them, again another choice.  

I like what Hitech did.  I like that now we don't have to worry about facing LaLa's, Niki's, and the horde.  The arena cap is excelent, it has done more to improve gameplay than anything HT has done in the past.  

The spliting the arenas into three time periods is also another stroke of genius.  You can still fly what you want, and not be totaly outclassed.

ENY needs to be adressed in all arenas, but that will be worked out eventually.

What Hitech has done has been nothing short of excising a cancer at the heart of the old style of "gameplay".  Gone are the 40-60 La-7 air divisions, the MEGASQUADs, the 20 Tiffy raids.  If you manage to get all of  your squad in the same arena you probably will overbalance the arena, and kick in the ENY limit.

Hitech was right, the MA was becoming a slum.  A slum that was increasingly being ruled by the HORDE.  The horde like any gang of hooligans, went after the easy targets.  The lightly/un defended bases fell before them, and succes bred a certain disrespect for the game.  I've been playing this game on and off for 6 years, I welcome back the game I started out playing.  The horde is dead, long live the community.


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« Reply #538 on: September 18, 2006, 07:36:54 AM »
flying a spit1 or a hurri1 and early allied biuffs vs anything else but an me109e ( bob period), ju88 , he111 do17 stuka -87 would be insane - all would man  the
late planes within the period.

"another game" had an arena ( bob) with only contemporary aircraft -was a joy to fly in there - unfortunately without allied BoB buffs.

another way to do it is with an early war RPS, mid war RPS ,and a late-war RPS
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« Reply #539 on: September 18, 2006, 07:44:50 AM »
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LOL busted shadez!

Retard.

Correct me if I am wrong but isn't the use of Shades against the EULA of this BBS? I know for a fact Skuzzy has a distaste for those who have conversations with themselves here. Maybe that is why he names his shade account "ByeBye"?