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« Reply #30 on: September 18, 2006, 10:28:35 AM »
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Pfffft pick and choose.  Typical remark from an Atheist.

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Just because I haven't given up thinking for myself, instead deciding to trust in one source written thousands of years ago and contaminated by man ever since then, to dictate my life and tell me what is "true" and "untrue"...  Doesn't make me an Atheist.

I believe in the same God you do.  I don't believe in the Bible word for word and I don't see how doing so and bringing it in the classroom is going to be helpful whatsoever in this situation.
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« Reply #31 on: September 18, 2006, 10:33:47 AM »
Mac, religion is no substitute for reason.
It's not even a slippery slope, it's the edge of the cliff that lands you directly to the same level as those towelheads you want nuked and stuffed.
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« Reply #32 on: September 18, 2006, 10:39:12 AM »
Vudak, are you a biblical scholar as well?

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« Reply #33 on: September 18, 2006, 10:44:52 AM »
Yep.  Americans label Islam as backward and then 40% or so proceed to say...  No, insist that the earth is only 6,000 years old, and that man and dinosaur frolicked together in peace and harmony until a great world-wide flood that no scientist can find any trace of destroyed the latter.

Although they're obviously both backward, thankfully, Christians are generally much nicer (at least now - the point in time that matters).
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« Reply #34 on: September 18, 2006, 10:46:10 AM »
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Vudak, are you a biblical scholar as well?


No...  But I've heard the fish tales.

Have you ever written a term paper and gotten away with using only one source?
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« Reply #35 on: September 18, 2006, 10:50:20 AM »
so you are not a biblical scholar but you dismiss it's teachings "because you have heard the fish tales"  brilliant.

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« Reply #36 on: September 18, 2006, 11:11:17 AM »
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so you are not a biblical scholar but you dismiss it's teachings "because you have heard the fish tales"  brilliant.


So it takes a doctorate to be able to deduce that the world was not created in 7 days (well, 6), that all the creatures of this earth were not around in the same exact form as present since the beginning of time, and that there was no great world-wide flood during man's time?

Of course, it doesn't take a doctorate to "prove" all these statements i've made are false.  All it takes is one book, which is the be all end all authority on all subjects pertinent to man.  Period.  End of discussion, have a nice day.

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« Reply #37 on: September 18, 2006, 11:36:40 AM »
LOL

who's talking about fixing an exact age on the earth or the universe?

show me one single transitional fossil of any species of plant or animal.

yes sir you are well on your way to becoming a balding pony tailed elbow patched cardigan wearing member of educated but useless elite.  enjoy the journey.  try to remember to pack some asbestos underware, it will come in handy just after the transition.

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« Reply #38 on: September 18, 2006, 11:55:59 AM »
Three strangers at the Great Falls airport are awaiting their flights.

One is a Native American on his way to Helena for a statewide Indian Pow-Wow.

Another a ranch hand on his way to Billings Montana for a stock show.

The third passenger is a fundamentalist Arab student, newly arrived, and on his way to study engineering at Montana Tech.

To pass the time they strike up a conversation on recent events, and the discussion drifts to their diverse cultures.

Soon the westerners learn that the Arab is a devout radical Muslim, and believes his people are justified in their 'holy' war.

The conversation falls into an uneasy lull. The cowpoke leans back in his chair, crosses his boots on a magazine table and tips his big sweat-stained hat forward over his face.

The wind outside blows and blows and the old windsock flaps but no plane comes.

Finally, the Native American clears his throat and softly he speaks:" Once, my people were many, now we are few."

The radical Muslim raises an eyebrow and leans forward, "Once my people were few," he sneers, "and now we are many. Why do you suppose that is?"

The Cowboy shifts the toothpick to one side of his mouth and from the darkness beneath his Stetson Cowboy Hat says, "That's 'cause we ain't played Cowboys and Muslims yet boy."
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« Reply #39 on: September 18, 2006, 12:02:29 PM »
Wasn't it a Stinson hat? :D

Anyway, just read the newest news.
Apparently the Muslims (well some of them) are so angry that the Pope quoted an old manuscript stating that Islam was an agressive religion (thereby possibly implying it himself) that they must run shouting to the streets and burn pope puppies.

"I am not aggressive, arrghh, you bastige, I will kill you for saying so" :rofl :rofl
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« Reply #40 on: September 18, 2006, 01:35:55 PM »
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LOL

who's talking about fixing an exact age on the earth or the universe?

show me one single transitional fossil of any species of plant or animal.

yes sir you are well on your way to becoming a balding pony tailed elbow patched cardigan wearing member of educated but useless elite.  enjoy the journey.  try to remember to pack some asbestos underware, it will come in handy just after the transition.


You obviously don't understand the concept of evolution.  I could point you to plenty of fossils suggesting human evolution, yet since each one is not the "exact fossil where the change occured," you'd dismiss it.  Nevermind the fact that many of the evolutionary changes wouldn't even be expressed by the phenotype.

I don't believe in your book word for word, so I'll be going to hell with asbestos underwear.  I don't believe in the Muslim's book, so I'll be going to hell express lane from decapitation.  There's a difference there in method, for sure, but the end desired result is the same.

If you really think the educated are "useless," it's only because you view them as glasses, Caecus.
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« Reply #41 on: September 18, 2006, 02:12:16 PM »
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LOL

who's talking about fixing an exact age on the earth or the universe?

show me one single transitional fossil of any species of plant or animal.

yes sir you are well on your way to becoming a balding pony tailed elbow patched cardigan wearing member of educated but useless elite.  enjoy the journey.  try to remember to pack some asbestos underware, it will come in handy just after the transition.


When i was in teh colij i lurnd about this vatican dude in the 1700's who determined the age of teh universe to the exact day.  The 6000th aniversary of this day was in October 1996, iirc & nobody cared :noid :furious (except me), not even the proffesor from the vatican observatory (their 1.8 meter Vatican Advanced Technology Telescope OWNS!!) who taught the history of astonomy & looked like g0d (actually more like santa, but a lot more like g0d than any recent pope).  I was disapointed, cause i thought there might be a big party with a lot of that catholic monk booze.

:mad: :mad:

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« Reply #42 on: September 18, 2006, 05:32:33 PM »
Vudak,

please bear with me.  I am clearly not as well educated as you and others who post here are.  

here are some points I would like to bring up and possibly discuss.  these are matters which interest me greatly but that I understand only from a layman's perspective.

reportedly darwinian evolution has been going through an internal revolt though to the outside world they put up a unified front.
 
science does not know nor can it conclusively prove the age of the earth or of the universe. be it ten thousand years or ten thousand million years.

evolutionary biology has no answer for the "cambrian explosion" in the fossil record.

there is no evidence that all life on the planet evolved from a single common ancestor.  

there is no evidence of a single example of evolution from one species into an entirely new one (descent with modification).  

according to linus pauling "science is the search for truth"
bruce alberts, president of the U.S. national academy of sciences states "science and lies cannot coexist"
 
I think that the testing of a theory should never end.  all scientific knowledge should in principle be subject to revision as new evidence becomes available.  as an example we have seen a recent revision in astrology and how planets are now categorized as such.  

it should not matter how long a theory has been held or how many scientists hold a particular view.  should contradictory evidence come to light the theory must be reevaluated, maybe even abandoned if warranted.

an average person of reasonable education with access to evidence should be able to understand and possibly evaluate many, if not all scientific claims.

would you agree with me on these points?  if you wish to continue the debate I have other points I'll bring up for discussion and further observation and concerns.

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« Reply #43 on: September 18, 2006, 05:39:53 PM »
Beware of the dark side.

Anger...fear...aggression. The dark side of the Force are they.

Easily they flow, quick to join you in a fight. The dark side.

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« Reply #44 on: September 18, 2006, 06:02:13 PM »
Storch, you're not one of those "Jehova" guys are you?
Anyway, Darwin works fast and nice, - speak from experience as a breeder ;)
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)