Author Topic: BSG ... wow (Read 2150 times)

lazs2 · « **Reply #75 on:** October 26, 2006, 03:09:53 PM »

rpm.. I would not be surprised if you liked the BSG world.... lots of good socialists all working together.

Contrast that with Firefly.... individualists compared to BSG robots... In BSG it is often hard to tell who is the robot... certainly the elite in BSG don't have any more respect for the people they govern than they do for the robots...

lazs

Thrawn · « **Reply #76 on:** October 26, 2006, 03:13:16 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
rpm.. I would not be surprised if you liked the BSG world.... lots of good socialists all working together.

Right, so you didn't watch last season at all.

lazs2 · « **Reply #77 on:** October 26, 2006, 03:18:19 PM »

yes I did... what is your point?

lazs

wetrat · « **Reply #78 on:** October 26, 2006, 03:23:01 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
rpm.. I would not be surprised if you liked the BSG world.... lots of good socialists all working together.

Contrast that with Firefly.... individualists compared to BSG robots... In BSG it is often hard to tell who is the robot... certainly the elite in BSG don't have any more respect for the people they govern than they do for the robots...

lazs

Why get wrapped up in the politics of fiction? Who cares? Just enjoy the show... I used to watch the West Wing, despite disagreeing with the entirety of American foreign policy. It was a _good show_. Who cares about the politics if it's entertaining?

Squire · « **Reply #79 on:** October 26, 2006, 03:30:55 PM »

There is really next to nothing good on TV for sci-fi these days except BSG, its certainly not perfect, but at least they try. I cant stand "Stargate SG:1" and "Andromeda" is a kids show.

As for the politics of it, the shows intent is not a blueprint for our future, I could care less, I just want it to be entertaining.

I will say this though, of all the "future societies" I would NOT want to live in "Star Trek: TNG" tops my list hands down. I would set my phaser to kill and evaporate myself (im sure they probably dont have that setting anymore so maybe just jump off a bridge would do), that or defect to the Klingons.

Chairboy · « **Reply #80 on:** October 26, 2006, 03:34:29 PM »

Spoiler:
For anyone who hasn't seen Exodus, Part II, here's the money shot and you really, really shouldn't watch this clip. For everyone else, daaaaaamn!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=j0cAi8z3t9Q

"This should be different."

Nifty · « **Reply #81 on:** October 27, 2006, 01:58:36 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
rpm.. I would not be surprised if you liked the BSG world.... lots of good socialists all working together.

Contrast that with Firefly.... individualists compared to BSG robots... In BSG it is often hard to tell who is the robot... certainly the elite in BSG don't have any more respect for the people they govern than they do for the robots...

lazs

You mean besides the whole Alliance thing in Firefly, right? Serenity itself is nothing more than a dictatorship. It's Mal's way or... Mal's way.

He might occasionally listen to a crew member's opinion though.

Thrawn · « **Reply #82 on:** October 27, 2006, 04:10:07 PM »

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You mean besides the whole Alliance thing in Firefly, right? Serenity itself is nothing more than a dictatorship. It's Mal's way or... Mal's way. He might occasionally listen to a crew member's opinion though.

It's not a dictatorship. No one was coerced into joining the crew, or staying part of it. Infact some practically begged to stay part of the crew. When Book and Space Ho decided to leave the ship Mal didn't put a gun to their head and say they couldnt'.

Serenity is an venture in free enterprise. A capitalist invested his wealth in a ship, and provides gainful employment, shelter and board for people who might otherwise not have it...or be in a much worse situation without the option he gave them.

For him doing this service he gets use of their skills and/or other compensations. Both sides make out better than they would without each other. And for this you call him a dictator? Absolutely not. But there is label for people that make the same arguement you are making.

"Commie."

Roscoroo · « **Reply #83 on:** October 27, 2006, 11:43:52 PM »

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Chairboy · « **Reply #84 on:** October 28, 2006, 12:12:07 AM »

If anyone is interested, I did some math by referencing the last scene of the 'fall' in last week's episode and figured that it was dropping at 1,000mph. I'll share my math if anyone is interested, but I may hold the 'alpha dork' status on my own.

rpm · « **Reply #85 on:** October 28, 2006, 02:22:59 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
rpm.. I would not be surprised if you liked the BSG world.... lots of good socialists all working together.

Contrast that with Firefly.... individualists compared to BSG robots... In BSG it is often hard to tell who is the robot... certainly the elite in BSG don't have any more respect for the people they govern than they do for the robots...

lazs

LOL, I've never given much thought to the political leanings of science fiction. I don't know what you mean about the BSG leaders. You must not understand the storyline.

lazs2 · « **Reply #86 on:** October 28, 2006, 04:05:43 PM »

sci fi is the best place to explore political ideas taken to extremes.

I agree with thrawn about Firefly. The allience is big government and the colonies are like states if....

If...We had states rights... the U.S. could be like that without a strong central government that will come and kill you if you exercise your state or human rights.

Imagine if you could have states with any rights that were constitutional... people could move to states that best suited their political leanings.

BSG is nothing but a strong central government... it was before the attack and earlier episodes hint that there was a large amount of political prisoners.

That does not mean I don't enjoy the show... I do. I just wouldn't want to live in their world as much as say the one in Firefly.

lazs

lukster · « **Reply #87 on:** October 29, 2006, 08:26:29 AM »

Now that I'm current I can read this thread.

The show was better before they started tossing in the politicizing.

Roscoroo · « **Reply #88 on:** October 29, 2006, 12:25:43 PM »

the next question .... Is Baltar a cylon ??? hmmm the plot thickens .....

Told ya Roslyn would get the pres job back ..With Tom as VP ...