Changes to come.

[Skuzzy]

Originally posted by Stiletto
7. Here's another REALLY BIG assumption: That people who work for you are not likely to tell you everything they think or feel.

I will not address the others, but I will say this.  You do not know HiTech, nor the others at HTC, if you remotely think there is one iota of truth to this.

Not trying to be confrontational, nor disrespectful.  Just letting you know.

[JB88]

so, let's say that hitech asks you if he looks fat in those pants...nevermind.

bad move 88...bad move....

[Mugzeee]

Originally posted by killnu
was actual question...not response to anything...post was made late on monday...day they said changes was going into effect...in first post of this thread.

Thanks for play on name of squad...cute.

Was all in fun killn...mostly noted your Tour Rank and just took the opportunity to say congrats in a "Cute" way.

Im not currently subscribing to AH. Seeing your post here simpey gave me the connect with ya, so i conveyed my congrats here.

Hoped you wouldnt take it as a slam.

HTCs getting rather touchy lately. Who can blame them?

I came to the BBS last evening just to check things out. I was FULLY ready to re-activate my subscription.

I read this thread, and said NO WAY IN ####.

[culero]

Originally posted by Tilt
Competition is every where .......out side of HTC the world and its dog would rather we spent time and money elsewhere..............

HT has made a career out of this genre and the fact that he is still here means todate he has got more right than wrong.................

However having said that this is not his hobby its his business and accountants decide how successful it is................

That means subscribers and it does not mean who subscribes, it means howmany subscribe and how those subscriptions cover and exceed his overheads................

Neither is he milking or maintaining some sort of cash cow. He is investing in CT plus much time and energy in upgrading the whole ac set to the latest standards of accuracy and fidelity compatible with this form of game.

I believe he does stuff because he thinks it's right.

I believe that when he thinks somethings wrong he will change it.

Further I believe that with folk like Pyro beside him he will be told when they think something is wrong.

But the criteria or test will always be the contribution to the business model.

And the business model has gone way past key account or personal service modelling. Its about stats, trends and data.

Yet the CEO of this company spends x hours a day reading these forums trying to explain his desicions to the passionate minority who represent but single figure %'s of his annual turn over. Often having to read stuff varying from accusations of incompetance to terms of down right abuse regarding himself and his employees when in fact I'm pretty sure he's got a team that I'd be pretty proud to have in any company of mine.

The subject of this thread is about change.........

Change means stuff is not the same tomorrow as it was yesterday........

HT knows the trials of change.........

It has to be considered thoroughly, implemented carefully................

If it does not work, I am sure, that after thorough consideration  it'll change again.

Hear Hear! Well done, sir

culero

[2Slow]

See Rule #6

[SlapShot]

Originally posted by 2Slow
See Rule #6

LOL ... and maybe a little PNG on the side.

[Mugzeee]

Originally posted by Gunston
I started playing aces high after seeing a commercial on the discovery wings or maybe the History channel sometime in 2001 or 2002. I thought �great a way to use the computer to in some small way get a sense of what it was like to fly in WWII�. I love aviation, my dad is a private pilot, (I got my pilots license in 2004 mostly because of my love for the game). I live near the U.S. Air force museum and had been there hundreds of times in my life. But it took on a whole new meaning after the game I truly felt that I had an understanding of the aircraft, how they stacked up against each other, their strengths and weaknesses.
When I started playing I thought it was the greatest thing in the world, really I did. I drove anyone who would listen crazy with talk about its realism. A friend of mine, who�s dad was a B-24 pilot would never believe that it wasn�t �just a video game played by a bunch of kids� I would tell him �most of these guys are my age (41 or so then) or older. They know a lot about the planes, pilots, and history of WWII. He would literally lose his patience and say things like �they are kids lying to you about their age�. I played the game constantly making me exhausted every day at work because of playing so late the night before. And I might add my wife was the classic Aces High widow.

The game made me a knight by default the first time I played it. I have never and will never play as anything else because in my Walter Mitty world of aces high that was where I was born. If I were born in Germany and came of age during WWII I would have fought against overwhelming numbers but I would not have quit or changed countries. If I were born an American or Russian I would have been part of an overwhelming horde, a simple matter of chance.
I told my cousin (SirPyro) about the game on Christmas in 2003 I told him "it�s like a drug don�t start if your not willing to devote a lot of time to playing it". The first time he got on he played for 72 straight hours. He joined the squad I was in the 113th Lucky Strikes. And he was always on. Another of our squad members was GunRunner he could always be counted on to show up for our Saturday Squad night.
 I haven�t seen SirPyro on for a couple of months, since the changes started kicking in. GunRunner sent the squad an email last week that �the game had lost its luster� and he had cancelled his account. I myself signed up for the free trial of Warbirds and WWII online to check them out but didn�t really like either of them. So now I never play except on Saturday Squad night mostly out of a since of obligation to the 1 or 2 guys that still show up.

You guys and my friend are right,  it is just a game now but man it used to be so much more.

Hmmm...if i had brains enough to type what you have here, i would have said it exactly the same.

It's like, like you are in my brain...hey hey...git outa my head.

[Overlag]

exactly JB88...

i been switching between knit and rooks.

if i say on knits i will get many in return.... if i ask for help... i might get it

if i say on rooks i get nothing. maybe 2 or 3. if i ask for help i get silence.



its not about squads, but its about everyone you get "used" to flying with.... squad mates, and country mates alike. Now forced to switch every hour just so we can fly.

i don't remember the costs going down since i can no longer fly often?

and still after SOOOO many changes to try and get us across 4 arenas you STILL have us all in LW arenas. If you weigh up what broke, and what was fixed on 9/13 I'm sure the scales will be tipping over towards broke. But that's the whole point that some people have tried to say.....

Change 1: split arenas, breaking up the game into CS servers

Result: Majority of players raise voice, but get laughed at by 20 furballers having fun in EW/MW.... even though the majority "vote" with there server choice..... 90% fly in LW1.

Change 2: HTC, dismayed that he may be wrong and that people wanna fight in a massive multiplayer game, splits the arenas yet again. and this time with a balancing system to try and keep both at equal (or close) numbers. (generally a good idea, with a few minor flaws)

Result: more raised voices, and issues due to off peak hours. A few mini tweaks to try and solve this problem..... even though it was non-existent 2 months before.... Oh and team balance issue starts to crop up....LW1 bish and knit, LW2 rook. Numbers start falling in EW/MW but rise dramatically in LW (highest numbers ever)

Change 3: due to the mini servers not allowing for large maps, the game returns to the 2002 status of AHI standard maps which have been played to death over and over and over. Also, due to the growing trend of players avoiding fights and joining arenas they can milk run in.. HTC create a blue line of advance, 1914 style.

Result: Players again show dismay against it on forum and on the servers... most try LWblue, or stop playing. Of course the select few furballers flying in EW/MW which isn't effected, think its a great idea.....  Initial numbers good, but only due to having a "new" map to look at. Brings back horde flying, and doesn't manage to force combat, instead A attacks B, B attacks C and C attacks A....good fights no where.... 1 against 50 odds on defencive fronts, 50 to 1 odds on attacking fronts....zzzzzzzzzzz LWB fills up most nights. side balance still a major issue....

Change 4:not listening to any ideas.... HTC chooses his own idea and forces a "you cannot fly rule" into AH.....players have to switch sides to be able to fly... which means each sortie is almost on a different team each time.

Result:I can sit in tower to wait to fly with my squad/friends or switch to another country and fly lone ranger....real result? i don't bother flying. Knits rarely have numbers anyway, and i dread to think what this change means to bish. Team work is out of the window, since you cant fly with your own team anymore (ie they get grounded once u get up) or you change to another side and cant speak the local language.





but then what does HTC care.....if i fly 5hours or 95hours it doesn't matter, hes still getting $14.99 from me....

i just wish i could find another game with WWII fighter combat.... WWII bombers and a massive server.



instead of putting 100% time into getting CT out this decade, the last 4 months have been about messing around with a game that had worked for so long...whines about the "slum of old MA" was next to no existent on the forum... almost all players liked the MA and the ones that didn't was the 1 on 1 guys... they had there DA but wouldn't go there.

Now however a few 100 pages of whines (like this one i agree) get added every week or so. The community isn't "healthier" (the original change aimed for that) but is in fact MUCH MUCH worse, with both sides of the fence whining and anti whining against each other....

if only we put so much of our whining efforts into fighting instead.


So, really what did Change 1 on 9/13 really fix???

[Mugzeee]

Originally posted by Overlag
exactly JB88...

i been switching between knit and rooks.

if i say on knits i will get many in return.... if i ask for help... i might get it

if i say on rooks i get nothing. maybe 2 or 3. if i ask for help i get silence.



its not about squads, but its about everyone you get "used" to flying with.... squad mates, and country mates alike. Now forced to switch every hour just so we can fly.

i don't remember the costs going down since i can no longer fly often?

and still after SOOOO many changes to try and get us across 4 arenas you STILL have us all in LW arenas. If you weigh up what broke, and what was fixed on 9/13 I'm sure the scales will be tipping over towards broke. But that's the whole point that some people have tried to say.....

Change 1: split arenas, breaking up the game into CS servers

Result: Majority of players raise voice, but get laughed at by 20 furballers having fun in EW/MW.... even though the majority "vote" with there server choice..... 90% fly in LW1.

Change 2: HTC, dismayed that he may be wrong and that people wanna fight in a massive multiplayer game, splits the arenas yet again. and this time with a balancing system to try and keep both at equal (or close) numbers. (generally a good idea, with a few minor flaws)

Result: more raised voices, and issues due to off peak hours. A few mini tweaks to try and solve this problem..... even though it was non-existent 2 months before.... Oh and team balance issue starts to crop up....LW1 bish and knit, LW2 rook. Numbers start falling in EW/MW but rise dramatically in LW (highest numbers ever)

Change 3: due to the mini servers not allowing for large maps, the game returns to the 2002 status of AHI standard maps which have been played to death over and over and over. Also, due to the growing trend of players avoiding fights and joining arenas they can milk run in.. HTC create a blue line of advance, 1914 style.

Result: Players again show dismay against it on forum and on the servers... most try LWblue, or stop playing. Of course the select few furballers flying in EW/MW which isn't effected, think its a great idea.....  Initial numbers good, but only due to having a "new" map to look at. Brings back horde flying, and doesn't manage to force combat, instead A attacks B, B attacks C and C attacks A....good fights no where.... 1 against 50 odds on defencive fronts, 50 to 1 odds on attacking fronts....zzzzzzzzzzz LWB fills up most nights. side balance still a major issue....

Change 4:not listening to any ideas.... HTC chooses his own idea and forces a "you cannot fly rule" into AH.....players have to switch sides to be able to fly... which means each sortie is almost on a different team each time.

Result:I can sit in tower to wait to fly with my squad/friends or switch to another country and fly lone ranger....real result? i don't bother flying. Knits rarely have numbers anyway, and i dread to think what this change means to bish. Team work is out of the window, since you cant fly with your own team anymore (ie they get grounded once u get up) or you change to another side and cant speak the local language.





but then what does HTC care.....if i fly 5hours or 95hours it doesn't matter, hes still getting $14.99 from me....

i just wish i could find another game with WWII fighter combat.... WWII bombers and a massive server.



instead of putting 100% time into getting CT out this decade, the last 4 months have been about messing around with a game that had worked for so long...whines about the "slum of old MA" was next to no existent on the forum... almost all players liked the MA and the ones that didn't was the 1 on 1 guys... they had there DA but wouldn't go there.

Now however a few 100 pages of whines (like this one i agree) get added every week or so. The community isn't "healthier" (the original change aimed for that) but is in fact MUCH MUCH worse, with both sides of the fence whining and anti whining against each other....

if only we put so much of our whining efforts into fighting instead.


So, really what did Change 1 on 9/13 really fix???

It's Obvious that you are not blinded by the light.
The trees of the forest havent got you turned around either.

[2Slow]

"The subject of this thread is about change.........

Change means stuff is not the same tomorrow as it was yesterday........

HT knows the trials of change......... "

It would have been a better subject if it had been about progress.  Change for the sake of change accomplishes very little.  I am in favor of progress.

I was happy with the single MA.  I loved it.  I adapted to the multiple MA's.  There is still some fun there.

The changes have lowered my fun meter.  Some progress might give it some positive rise.  More aircraft and GV's.  The jeep was a good thing.  Fun and somewhat useful.  The jeep was progress.

Warfare, combat, killing, fairness, and balance.  I don't see how one can expect balance in a military war game if one does not want to organize in a martial manner.  I know that often the efforts of 2 or 3 squads has turned the tide against superior enemy numbers.

Done and out of here.  I shall play a little longer and evaluate my satisfaction with this product.

[Excaliber]

See Rules #4, #5

[KTM520guy]

Originally posted by Overlag

snip...a bunch of text

You are correct, sir.

Before 9/13 the only whines on the bbs were "How come  the LA7 and Spit XVI are not perked" and "**** those dive bombing Lancs"

I wish I had enough money to purchase the correct amount of good scotch to have AHII fixed right.  

[SlapShot]

if only we put so much of our whining efforts into fighting instead.

Smartest thing you said in the whole post ... the rest was 1/2 speculation on your part and the other 1/2 total bullcrap.

[Excaliber]

See Rules #2, #5

[Mr No Name]

Spot On, Overlag!