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Offline Kweassa

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« on: December 11, 2006, 12:32:13 PM »
You know...

 The recent events have taught me a valuable lesson.

 At first, I thought the EW/MW setting that is promoted at MA level would become a welcome addition to AH. A chance to play MA-scale game with  the more "primitive", "lotech", "sucky" and also "well balanced" fighters of the Early and Mid war era.

 I thought an arena that had planes with less of a division between the "ubers" and the "suxxors" would be appealing. I mean, with these planes, obviously you can't just nose-down and dive 600mph, and then run straight home to your base at 380mph deck speed. Blazing the trail with triple, quad cannons is a pretty rare thing in those parts. The fights would take longer, with a lot more aerial action to be seen. The ordnance is a lot lighter than LW, and thus it would take a lot more precise amount of bombing to destroy stuff.

 I thought that kind of thing would be neat and fun. I mean, if I like something like that, who wouldn't, right?


 
 It turns out I've grossly overestimated the public.

[u]Note to self[/u]: "The five rules of the masses, in regards to simulated aerial combat"

#1. People cannot live without uberplanes.
#2. People cannot live without uberplanes.
#3. People cannot live without uberplanes.
#4. People cannot live without uberplanes.
#5. People cannot live without uberplanes.


 What is there in LW that you cannot enjoy in EW or MW? What makes it more appealing than the rest? The only answer I could come up with, was "Lgays, Spit16s, and dorky US fighters that carries 3k+ payload".

 Ah, the noble dream. T'was good while it lasted, HT.

 They never told me reality would be this harsh. I think my faith in the people's urge to enjoy variety just took a serious hit.

Offline Nilsen

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« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2006, 12:45:52 PM »
i _never_ fly the niki, lala or spits but i still enjoy the LW. Id rather have a poor K/D ratio in other fighters and enjoy my kills than to use the 3 main irritants. Killing any of the 3 gives me a warm fuzzy feeling. If they whine its even better.

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« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2006, 12:50:09 PM »
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Originally posted by Kweassa

  What is there in LW that you cannot enjoy in EW or MW? What makes it more appealing than the rest? The only answer I could come up with, was "Lgays, Spit16s, and dorky US fighters that carries 3k+ payload".

 


i get to fight more people?  Also i usually fly a P38 with no bombs because i'm a fighter not a bomber.

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« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2006, 12:50:38 PM »
Sadly there is some truth to what you say Kweassa.  I think it's the need to feel like you can win without much effort or fit in quickly without much effort.

Immediate gratification vs the challenge.

But then again I just chug along in my P38G so what would I know :)
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« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2006, 12:50:56 PM »
I initially was against arena separations. But, after a few days...weeks of flying in them, I found them fun!

I would like to see one improvement, though...

For those of us who fly off peak hours, it would be nice to see who is flying, and who is GVing. Example...the EW arena where there are 5 players total...I like airplanes....maybe the other 5 like GVs...I can fly forever and not find a fight. But! If I knew the fight was on the ground...I might just challenge myself and grab a GV. Might there be a way on the Clipboard (other than individually searching each person's location...i.e  "go to" ) that I could see that no one was airborne?

Just food for thought.
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« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2006, 12:51:02 PM »
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 What is there in LW that you cannot enjoy in EW or MW? What makes it more appealing than the rest?  


Numbers.


When I came back a few weeks ago, I spend a big fraction of my time in MW. But finally the numbers abated to such a low level that it was simply no longer fun for me to play there.

IMHO itīs not necessarily the majority of players who would never leave LW, but a very sizeable faction. Now add to that group of LW fanatics the huge number of players like me, who would only occasionally drop into MW, the late arenas have a numerical advantage, especially as MW and EW arenas are competing with each other. And numbers produce numbers, people tend to aggravate to the place where most other players are.
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« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2006, 12:52:07 PM »
My favorite things to do in this game....

Pop the odd peee51 or tiffy in my trusty Hurri Mk.1  Nothing quite like popping the uber plane in one designed and flown in the last decade :)

Also enjoy killing GV's with the FW-190F8, those rockets are a beast :)

So I would not find those two things in either the EW or MW would I?

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« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2006, 12:58:26 PM »
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Numbers.

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more people


 Actually that's AFTER the initial 'selection' of 'favorites' have been already determined by the masses. I'm not really different since I also (painstakingly) have to give up flying in EW or MW because fighting the same 5 people over and over again gets old real quick.

 The issue at hand is why is there such imbalance in numbers between the arenas, in the first place.

 
 That's when it hit me.

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* Flies follow shi* around.
* There's shi* in the LW
* So flies flock to LW



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« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2006, 01:00:22 PM »
i prefer arena with the most numbers.. i dont care what i fly as long as there's something else to fight..
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« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2006, 01:01:26 PM »
My preference would be for the MWA but numbers are very low.

Sunday I found myself moving there from Close Escort and my bomber mission would be a milkrun unless we went for airbases, and then it's not much better.
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« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2006, 01:02:23 PM »
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i prefer arena with the most numbers.. i dont care what i fly as long as there's something else to fight..



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« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2006, 05:35:24 PM »
MW would be a blast if the new arena-balancing thing comes online--The fact that mostly rooks go there is its failing--- Not many folks wanna volunteer to get ganged with their online time. EW.... Spit and H2C seem to get 90% of the kills there, making the rest of the planes moot
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« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2006, 05:46:10 PM »
well, people like to fly with the numbers, and seeing as the LW is most popular with the general community, that's where most people go

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« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2006, 05:49:38 PM »
no matter what arena you fly there is a uber plane. the first week of the new system all i heard (besides the other obvious) was perk the hurri .

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« Reply #14 on: December 11, 2006, 06:18:52 PM »
I would like to see the EW with smaller maps, less distance between bases, and 100 troops to capture bases and no factories.  I go there often to see if I can fight the 20-30 people listed as in the arena...I can't find them.  Then I notice a factory blinking and go to intercept--the stratrunner augers.  I see a town blinking at a base, go to check it out, GV base capturer runs away to another part of the map.

In short (and in general) mostly milkrunners gaming the game/map.

I would love to see some wicked Hurri I, Spit I, C202, 109E fights, but I'm afraid that is just beyond the capabilities and interest of most current players.