Author Topic: Clint Eastwood's "Letters from Iwo-Jima" (Read 547 times)

1K3 · « **on:** December 13, 2006, 02:33:59 PM »

Anyone gonna watch this Dec 20th?

The "Letters" is Eastwood's part 2 of "Flags". The movie will be 100% english subbed.

I smell Oscars here...

Rolex · « **Reply #1 on:** December 13, 2006, 04:12:36 PM »

I've seen both. "Letters from Iwo Jima" is head and shoulders above "Flags of our Fathers."

DiabloTX · « **Reply #2 on:** December 13, 2006, 04:17:20 PM »

Somehow, I knew that's what you were going to say Rolex.

I'll see it when it comes out.

Rolex · « **Reply #3 on:** December 13, 2006, 04:34:54 PM »

It has better characters and a better screenplay which allows for better acting. "Flags" made its point after 40 minutes and the rest of the movie wasn't very compelling. The last half dragged with no real point. That isn't a fault of the book, it wasn't written as drama.

DiabloTX · « **Reply #4 on:** December 13, 2006, 04:47:35 PM »

I agree, the book made it very difficult to translate into a movie.

I am looking forward to "Letters..." though.

Angus · « **Reply #5 on:** December 14, 2006, 05:53:51 PM »

How are the combat scenes in Letters? I'm all ears, - for as far as I know they used much of the same stuff.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #6 on:** December 14, 2006, 07:06:56 PM »

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Originally posted by Rolex
I've seen both. "Letters from Iwo Jima" is head and shoulders above "Flags of our Fathers."

I hope so, I was not at all impressed with Flags as a movie, terrible oacing, too many disrupitive flashbacks, no focus, poor charcters, on and on.

Rolex · « **Reply #7 on:** December 14, 2006, 08:39:21 PM »

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Originally posted by Angus
How are the combat scenes in Letters? I'm all ears, - for as far as I know they used much of the same stuff.

Well, same island and same battle.

There are some, but not that many -CGI of fleet and a few from Japanese perspective used in "Flags", but most are from an opposing perspective. It's a different kind of story, Angus.

As a footnote, one thing not in "Letters" that might have added some drama was the raising of the Japanese flag two more times after the second US flag raising that was captured in the photo.

Twice, Japanese and US troops awoke to see the Japanese flag atop the mountain, raised during the night. The second one was not a real flag, but a makeshift one reported to have been made using blood.

The movie was written by and for Japanese audiences, so that imagery about the flag would have appealed more to non-Japanese senses than to modern-day Japanese, who don't associate flags as much as emotional symbols of identity.

ByeBye · « **Reply #8 on:** December 14, 2006, 08:43:06 PM »

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Originally posted by Rolex
Well, same island and same battle. There are some, but not that many -CGI of fleet and a few from Japanese perspective used in "Flags", but most are from an opposing perspective. It's a different kind of story, Angus.

As a footnote, one thing not in "Letters" that might have added some drama was the raising of the Japanese flag two more times after the second US flag raising that was captured in the photo.

Twice, Japanese and US troops awoke to see the Japanese flag atop the mountain, raised during the night. The second one was not a real flag, but a makeshift one reported to have been made using blood.

The movie was written by and for Japanese audiences, so that imagery about the flag would have appealed more to non-Japanese senses than to modern-day Japanese, who don't associate flags as much as emotional symbols of identity.

I don't know about you, but I sure wish that Japan had been victorious in WWII.

ByeBye · « **Reply #9 on:** December 14, 2006, 08:47:43 PM »

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Originally posted by Rolex
The second one was not a real flag, but a makeshift one reported to have been made using blood.

Yeah, right.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #10 on:** December 14, 2006, 08:56:34 PM »

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Originally posted by ByeBye
I don't know about you, but I sure wish that Japan had been victorious in WWII.

Why is that?

ByeBye · « **Reply #11 on:** December 14, 2006, 09:02:25 PM »

Rule #5

Rino · « **Reply #12 on:** December 15, 2006, 12:59:05 AM »

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Originally posted by ByeBye
I don't know about you, but I sure wish that Japan had been victorious in WWII.

The kind and gentle way they treated their captives sure was a
treat. I can't even begin to imagine a mindset like yours.

Rino · « **Reply #13 on:** December 15, 2006, 01:02:06 AM »

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Originally posted by ByeBye

Yeah, somehow the US forced the Japanese military to invade Manchuria
thus causing the noble Nipponese to conquer half the Pacific. The boycott
was put in place AFTER their little adventure in China...no one was trying
to starve Japan of resources until after they showed they couldn't play
well with others.

Angus · « **Reply #14 on:** December 15, 2006, 02:45:28 AM »

Oh, the embargo? Well, it was going to war, or eventually pulling out I guess. And the Nation of Samurais at the time did not bow very well.
So, they tried their luck and started playing with the Tommy's (which were in a tight spot already) and the cowboys.
As Yamamoto said "This'd better work"