Author Topic: Jeremy Clarkson-The Good The Bad The Ugly (Read 15284 times)

tikky · « **Reply #315 on:** January 15, 2007, 05:25:03 PM »

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Originally posted by 1K3
The point is LUTOS and that ROUCH don't belong in the same class.

For a fair match, Lotus Estige should race a 1986 Toyota Corolla AE86 (hachi-roku). The Rouch Mustang should race the Skyline GTR.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=EFvI8B6nU84

Nice video about the Roush Mustangs and that Skyline vs Corolla.

I learned something though, power alone is not the only indicator of how good the car can perform on track.

Blank · « **Reply #316 on:** January 15, 2007, 05:25:23 PM »

Bronk heres from the Tog Gear Series, each week, they give the cars to the Stig, on the same track, and see what he can do.

the Roush Mustangs not there unfortunatley, but many others:

http://www.topgear.com/content/tgonbbc2/laptimes/thestig/

FastFwd · « **Reply #317 on:** January 15, 2007, 05:31:18 PM »

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Originally posted by Skuzzy
Anyway. Comparing an American muscle car or hot rod to anything from Europe is cheesy. Nothing from Europe fits in the muscle car or hot rod class. And nothing from the U.S. fits the high strung nature of the exotic automobiles from Europe.

They both are there for different reasons and for different types of driving.

Bingo! I knew we'd get there - in the end.

Bronk · « **Reply #318 on:** January 15, 2007, 05:34:06 PM »

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Originally posted by Blank
Bronk heres from the Tog Gear Series, each week, they give the cars to the Stig, on the same track, and see what he can do.

the Roush Mustangs not there unfortunatley, but many others:

http://www.topgear.com/content/tgonbbc2/laptimes/thestig/

Thanx Blank , wouldn't you be interested in what the Stig could do with it.

Especially since JC liked the car?

Bronk

1K3 · « **Reply #319 on:** January 15, 2007, 05:36:54 PM »

This thread's starting to get a bit boring. It's basically US vs Euro car chauvinism. Let's mix in the Japanese cars. After all, Japanese cars trump them all

(runs and hides)

Bronk · « **Reply #320 on:** January 15, 2007, 05:40:42 PM »

And you still have no answer.
Did you take tap classes?

Bronk

john9001 · « **Reply #321 on:** January 15, 2007, 05:57:52 PM »

how about some hard numbers?

http://www.natsoft.com.au/cgi-bin/results.cgi?28/09/2003.ARDC.R3

Pos Car Entrant Driver Vehicle Cap CL Laps Race.Time Fastest...Lap

1 5 AUTOHAUS HAMILTON Bill Pye (NSW) Porsche 996 GT3 3600 A 5 8:24.1670 4 1:38.5196R
2 18 TATTERSALL'S William Adams (NSW) Robnell Cobra 302SC 5100 A 5 8:26.9265 4 1:39.2996r
3 43 CELERITY RACING Stephen Borness (NSW) Porsche 911 GT3 3598 A 5 8:27.6662 4 1:38.6101r
15 71 BRUGGONE MOTORSPORT Chris Van Bruggle (NSW) Lotus Exige 1800 B 5 9:24.1032 5 1:48.5260

looks like the mustang cobra 302SC finished second with a fastest lap of 1:38, the exige finished 15th , fastest lap of 1:48

1K3 · « **Reply #322 on:** January 15, 2007, 05:58:15 PM »

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Originally posted by Bronk
And you still have no answer.
Did you take tap classes?

Bronk

Geeez I think I already answered you, it would be interesting you ask me a new question:)

Bronk · « **Reply #323 on:** January 15, 2007, 06:08:14 PM »

1K3 you answered with there in a different class.

I asked wouldn't lap times by the same driver be interesting (in a round about way)?

I don't care what race class they would be in.

Bronk

1K3 · « **Reply #324 on:** January 15, 2007, 06:28:57 PM »

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Originally posted by Bronk

I asked wouldn't lap times by the same driver be interesting (in a round about way)?

Yeah it would be interesting, but to make it more "eyecandy" for the audience, they decided to race that Roush and Lotus similar to the Skyline vs Corolla video that i posted 10 posts above. It should not be a surprise that a go-kart Lotus will finish a lap earlier.

I've watched some 10 and 20+ year old Top Gear episodes on Youtube. The Top Gear in the past was 100% car review (and most would find it boring zzzzz). The new Top Gear is more like MTV's "Pimp My Ride".

Bronk · « **Reply #325 on:** January 15, 2007, 06:34:43 PM »

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Originally posted by 1K3
Yeah it would be interesting, but to make it more "eyecandy" for the audience, they decided to race that Roush and Lotus similar to the Skyline vs Corolla video that i posted 10 posts above. It should not be a surprise that a go-kart Lotus will finish a lap earlier.

I've watched some 10 and 20+ year old Top Gear episodes on Youtube. The Top Gear in the past was 100% car review (and most would find it boring zzzzz). The new Top Gear is more like MTV's "Pimp My Ride".

But 1K3 why was JC so quick to point out how the bmw and viper did solo?
Then not do the same of the roush and lotus?

I'll say it again, they did. But when the US ride did well we cant show em that now can we ?

Waiting for your next tap dance session.

Bronk

Excel1 · « **Reply #326 on:** January 15, 2007, 11:20:27 PM »

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Originally posted by 1K3
Let's mix in the Japanese cars. After all, Japanese cars trump them all

Not down here they don't :-)

Drag Masters is American and Aussie V8s plus Brit V8 conversions versus the ricers in heads-up teams racing.

In the inaugural event last year the V8s stomped on the ricers 44 points to 7

This year the ricers were a little more reliable and didn't drop so much oil on the track but the V8s still won 30 to 25 :-)

linky to the elimination results:
http://championdragway.co.nz/id-8/item-73/file-C11EDAT.TXT

1K3 · « **Reply #327 on:** January 16, 2007, 12:22:52 AM »

now THIS is interesting.

I like that photo, huge ram air-intake vs huge turbos

sluggish · « **Reply #328 on:** January 16, 2007, 02:06:30 AM »

eskimo2 · « **Reply #329 on:** January 16, 2007, 05:30:46 AM »

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Originally posted by Excel1

Are they humping their cars?