What is a HO??????

[VooWho]

I don't care how other people think I fight, I can in RL how other people think of me. Why should I care, I don't think game, I think RL and if they get in my sites, I go for the kill. I don't think RL pilots that got HO didn't complain. It was a tactic. I don't HO unless I know I can take the plane infront of me. In your case Hornet it wasn't a HO. What you did was a quick think kill situation. I would have done the same thing, and I have. I have dive down on people as they climb up to me about to stall. (I don't know why they do this) and I shot the person and they said I HO'd them. What I had was an advantage to shoot this guy down, because he did a dumb move to put his plane in my sites.

Now Kong that is a HO

[Shuffler]

Well let's see you were in a Zeke, and a Knight..... and you killed someone.... yup your a Ho'er now... lol   J/K.

Sounds like he made a mistake and blamed you. Your description is not of a Ho at all. If he PM'ed you to say so... he did so because he did not want anyone else to know he got owned. Beside a HO takes 2 even if one doesn't fire.

My advice..... continue on your way and have fun.

You might see my 38 around and drop down and kill me.. or HO me.... no difference I am still dead... I might complain some.. but I will do it on 200 not PMING LOL, Then go get my brand new 38 and go  off into the wild blue yonder.

[Wes14]

Originally posted by Hornet33
OK I have a question here. What do people consider a HO???

a lady that stands at a street corner that u pay to do crap im not allowed to mention here.

[SkyRock]

Originally posted by Hornet33
OK I have a question here. What do people consider a HO??? I got accused last night of HO'ing someone (no names) and I don't think it was a HO.

First off I want to define what I believe a HO is. 2 planes come into icon range and turn into each other. From 5k out a game of chicken starts where both planes are flying straight towards one anouther and both planes open fire at 1k and try to kill each other.

In that situation I normally do not open fire since it is an obvious HO and is just un cool in my opinion. I can normally avoid the shots from the other plane and then manuver to a gun solution.

Last night however, I was on the outer edge of a furball in an A6M5b. I had just arrived at the fight and was looking at the situation to see what I could do. I rolled up on my right wing, looked down and saw a fellow Knight with a spit on his tail geting ready to pass under me. I rolled inverted and pulled towards the deck and lined myself up for a crossing shot on the spit. He saw me setting him up and he pulled up into me, however I was able to tighten my turn to lead his plane and opened up at 200 as he crossed my nose. Landed several 20mm hits in his cockpit and he blew up. Next thing I know I'm getting pm'd and he's telling me I HO'd him.

Now to my way of thinking, if your already in a turn fight and your manuvering and you all of a sudden end up face to face with a plane and get shot in the face, that's NOT a HO, as neither pilot really had time to set it up that way. It's a quick reaction shot to a sudden target in your sights.

Maybe I'm wrong and maybe I shouldn't have taken that shot but my fellow Knight got away, I got a kill, and managed to get home with it.

Opinions????

One might ask was this your only shot?

[mussie]

Originally posted by hubsonfire
2 schools of thought on this.

Nose to nose, both have a shot= HO

or

Any shot that is not within 90 degrees of being directly behind the guy= HO

The second one I think is just BS, but, like the collision myths, it's gaining in popularity nevertheless.

Hey ya Hornet...

I have to agree with hubs statment mate... I think he hit it right on the head... I dont know how he did it, being a BK and all... but he is right... guess it must be a 1000 monkeys 1000 typewriters thing....

[rod367th]

lol Who cares ....... Fly how you want and have fun......... so many get on 200 most know guy complaining about dying to ho , just lost his jousting match..


 Quit running= I'm in a better turning plane turn  fly to my advantage i'm not good enopugh to work for kill.



 La7 is dweeb ride=  but not when i fly it.



 don't bomb Tank town=  only ours guys should bomb it



  Who cares were winning war u guys suck = We have numbers.



 who is the 30k bombers=  why don't you fly low so i can have a better chance



ETC list goes on 200 is childrens channel= once you prove them wrong the family insults start.




ITS A GAME   fly your way have fun I'll fly my way. No matter how much your whine on 200 I'll still fly my way

[4deck]

I dont shoot a head on shot in my first pass, with the exeption of this. If we re losing a base, and Im defending. I dont give a ratz arse what you think if I shoot you if your vulching. Second is a furball. Which is closely related to the first one.

Now, if you start to merge with me head on, I still wont shoot on first pass. Mostly cause Im stupid. I will have guns a blaze on second merge if we come out that again though.  

Cheers

[gusman]

Originally posted by KONG1
This is a HO

wouldn't this be her six? oh i get it

gusman44

[Sloehand]

The "whiner dweeb" is the one who doesn't accept that in this game (or most anything else in life) if there ain't no formal and enforced rule about it, and if it can be done, it will be done.
Crying cause you died is just re-circulating air.

"Get Over It, Get Over It"
        -The Eagles

Originally posted by Suave
Anyone who calls a Ho shot a 1/4 shot is a whiner. They are trying to justify why they used a 1/4 shot.


God that simple word HO really gets dweebs worked up.

Whiners

[straffo]

If I shot you down I just made an incredible* deflection shot

If you shot me down you just made a head on !




Correct ?




*because of my L33T skills.

[Visigothan]

Boy, this cheeses me to no end.

I have at least 10 films on my hard drive of hard-turning dogfights in my A6M5b, fighting everything from Spitfires, Typhoons, 190s, LA-7s, you name it...

...where I out turn the other person and wind up pointing straight at their cockpit from above or the forward quarter, and kill them with a shot to their pilot's face, and what happens?

I get accused on 200 of being a "cheap HObag". Yeah. Really. I mean, I've just out turned them for the last 10 seconds, maneuvering to get a shot, blown their brains out their canopy and they accuse me of being "cheap"?

Since when did the employment of BFM to defeat your opponent become "cheap"? These lamers and whiners consider any shot that isn't dead off your 6-o-clock to be "cheap" or "cheating".

This is akin to whiners in Counter Strike complaining that some weapons are better than others, and that it's "cheap" to use a certain weapon.

Grow up. It's a GAME. If you don't like it, stop playing. It's that simple.

[Gumbeau]

An interesting aspect of the head on argument is that 99% of the merges that are 'complained' as being HO arent.

In a true head on situation both folks have a firing solution. Rarely does such a pass generate complaint.

The complaints always issue forth when someone executes a good front quarter shot while denying the bandit his shot opportunity. The dead guy was trying his best to turn this into a HO.

SO when folks complain about HO there are really saying "I'm angry because you denied me the opportunity to shoot you in the HO pass I was setting up"

Also, when you see a guy flying Kodak (point and shoot) you know you are facing a limited talent bandit and can lead turn with confidence.

[rod367th]

Originally posted by Gumbeau
An interesting aspect of the head on argument is that 99% of the merges that are 'complained' as being HO arent.

In a true head on situation both folks have a firing solution. Rarely does such a pass generate complaint.

The complaints always issue forth when someone executes a good front quarter shot while denying the bandit his shot opportunity. The dead guy was trying his best to turn this into a HO.

SO when folks complain about HO there are really saying "I'm angry because you denied me the opportunity to shoot you in the HO pass I was setting up"

Also, when you see a guy flying Kodak (point and shoot) you know you are facing a limited talent bandit and can lead turn with confidence.

lol   oh yes they do complain trying to ho and losing joust match. have had many plane kills in my il2 60% are guys trying to ho rest forget how good il2 turns. and i mean true ho diveing losing alt to go st8 at me . i wait fire 600 and bingo kill and a whine after lol

[rod367th]

Originally posted by Gumbeau
An interesting aspect of the head on argument is that 99% of the merges that are 'complained' as being HO arent.

In a true head on situation both folks have a firing solution. Rarely does such a pass generate complaint.

The complaints always issue forth when someone executes a good front quarter shot while denying the bandit his shot opportunity. The dead guy was trying his best to turn this into a HO.

SO when folks complain about HO there are really saying "I'm angry because you denied me the opportunity to shoot you in the HO pass I was setting up"

Also, when you see a guy flying Kodak (point and shoot) you know you are facing a limited talent bandit and can lead turn with confidence.

lol   oh yes they do complain trying to ho and losing joust match. have had many plane kills in my il2 60% are guys trying to ho rest forget how good il2 turns. and i mean true ho diveing losing alt to go st8 at me . i wait fire 600 and bingo kill and a whine after lol

[Mustaine]

Originally posted by KONG1
This is a HO

I'd hit it