Author Topic: Anybody Using Vista? (Read 9680 times)

MrRiplEy[H] · « **Reply #135 on:** February 05, 2007, 09:00:34 AM »

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Originally posted by Mini D
Case? You mean case, motherboard, memory, power supply and so forth... right? It's not unusual for most of this to be proprietary on HPs and Compacts (from what I've seen... haven't worked with Dells).

Making them upgradeable is not in the manufacturer's best interest.

Case comes with powersupply *check*
He already bought the new mobo which didnt fit in the old case *check*
He was fighting with expensive and hard to get ram *check*

Conclusion: Path of least resistance and cost is to dump the OEM and build a new one.

republic · « **Reply #136 on:** February 05, 2007, 09:12:09 AM »

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Just wanted to chime in saying that AH is working fine on my system with Vista, so if you think you might get stuck with it...there is hope.

CPU: AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+
RAM: 2GB Mushkin DDR-400
Motherboard Chipset: nVidia 6100/410 using vista default drivers
Video Card: GeForce 7800GT using 97.46 drivers
Sound: Audigy using Creative Labs 2.12.001 beta vista drivers

It seems my initial post was in error. In Vista AH does a very odd "slow down" every 5 seconds or so...very weird. It's like normal, then drops to like 10fps for about 3 seconds, then back to normal then repeats. The weird thing is..it seems to only happen when other players are nearby.

"Fell down a well, eyes crossed...kicked in the head by a mule...back together again... I dunno." - applicable movie quote

MrRiplEy[H] · « **Reply #137 on:** February 05, 2007, 12:58:16 PM »

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Originally posted by republic
It seems my initial post was in error. In Vista AH does a very odd "slow down" every 5 seconds or so...very weird. It's like normal, then drops to like 10fps for about 3 seconds, then back to normal then repeats. The weird thing is..it seems to only happen when other players are nearby.

"Fell down a well, eyes crossed...kicked in the head by a mule...back together again... I dunno." - applicable movie quote

It probably detects there are other players nearby that play with non-drm computers and slows down your premium experience.

Irwink! · « **Reply #138 on:** February 05, 2007, 02:14:34 PM »

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Originally posted by republic
It seems my initial post was in error. In Vista AH does a very odd "slow down" every 5 seconds or so...very weird. It's like normal, then drops to like 10fps for about 3 seconds, then back to normal then repeats. The weird thing is..it seems to only happen when other players are nearby.

"Fell down a well, eyes crossed...kicked in the head by a mule...back together again... I dunno." - applicable movie quote

For what its worth I haven't seen that on my machine. I've had a few people close to me too and it seems all ot them are shooting at me for some reason.

Krusty · « **Reply #139 on:** February 05, 2007, 02:48:01 PM »

My sis REALLY needed an upgrade, and it was the mobo from my PC (I upgraded to a PCIe mobo) so all I did was buy a $45 Celeron which was 5x faster than her old CPU and wanted to swap it out. If I had to go through all the trouble of going out and getting a new case she'd have been turned off the entire process.

Trust me, it was for her own good. She couldn't even run SIMS (which she enjoys).

smash · « **Reply #140 on:** February 09, 2007, 04:48:10 PM »

I cruised this thread briefly to get a feel for what is up with AH and Vista. Installing it on a machine at work on Monday to see if it will work well with my dev tools. We've briefly tested it with VMware and it boots nice and fast after the initial install.

I understand Skuzzy is looking at a 15% or so performance hit... has anyone benchmarked this with Sandra, Cinebench or something else? I might get an extra hard drive and go at it that way at home, but I want to play around some more at work to see how it goes.

DRM is here to stay guys. Theft of IP on the scale we are seeing now has created a market for a real and viable solution.

Skuzzy · « **Reply #141 on:** February 09, 2007, 05:07:16 PM »

Uh, the current DRM technology will not stop piracy at all. It will only hinder/stop legal users from making copies of thier legally purchased software/content. In some cases, it will even alter/downgrade the content resolution (audio or video) when played back.

The piracy problem is a problem. But DRM is just another bandaid on a cut that is 1 mile deep, 5 miles long, and getting bigger all the time. Until they attack the source of piracy, they will never accomplish anything.

Of course, one could argue they do not want to stop piracy. It gives them all the ammunition to build thier power up. And it might really boil down to something that petty.

Bobby · « **Reply #142 on:** February 09, 2007, 05:08:41 PM »

Why would Bill Gates want DRM in his system to begin with? Do you think he really cares about MP3's being swapped? Itunes is the answer. He knows if he can make it all secure they will flock to them in droves to be the premier content provider for TV, Movies, and music. Microsoft has been sued how many times for anti-competive monopolistic behavior? Anytime someone comes up with a better product than him (Apple Itunes) he tries to buy them out or force them out. When is the last time you saw Lotus 123 on a computer?
The problem is his solution screws up everything else on your system. Skuzzy we need AH to be able to run on MACs.

Bobby · « **Reply #143 on:** February 09, 2007, 05:15:42 PM »

I would bet Mini-D has a connection to the recording industry or used to make money selling music. I bet he thinks every 15 year old needs to be in jail for all this theft. The good news is, artists make almost nothing off record sales, the song writers and record companies make a fortune. The artist only makes money on tour or if they write there own stuff. Maybe the best future would be eliminate the record companies, artists sell direct. Local TV stations will be gone in 10 years (there may be more news bureaus in each state), the networks no longer need them. Artist have methods to distribute beyond the record companies anyway.

Mini D · « **Reply #144 on:** February 09, 2007, 08:19:06 PM »

VILLIFY EVERYONE THAT DISAGREES! You must be a democrat.

Bobby · « **Reply #145 on:** February 09, 2007, 08:58:49 PM »

Not the disagreeing part, it's the passion involved with arguing with everyone else. You refuse to accept anyone else's point of view. They don't pirate, why should they be punished? You are very narrow minded, must be a hate radio fan. Now tell truth, you have a connection hense, your overbearing support of DRM

Mini D · « **Reply #146 on:** February 09, 2007, 09:25:17 PM »

That's an interesting way of putting it. I don't see where I endorsed anything. I do see that every action results in an equal and opposite reaction. Whom it impacts is irrelevant. Many laws are put in place to limit the extremists at the cost of the individual freedoms others.

republic · « **Reply #147 on:** February 09, 2007, 09:32:08 PM »

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VILLIFY EVERYONE THAT DISAGREES! You must be a democrat.

I was thinking Republican...

Just thought I'd share some of my recent Vista experiences. After I discovered several of my newer games will not work (Star Trek Legacy, Civilization 4, etc.) and growing weary of a multitude of small bugs here and there...I've ran back home to momma (XP).

I gave Vista a good try...I went into it openminded...but it's just not ready to be my primary OS. I'll leave it on it's partition and see if updates correct the issues I've faced. After dealing with it most of the evening (from about 4:00 p.m. until now 9:30 p.m.) I don't have the will to go in detail about the irritation that is seething from my pores.

Suffice to say, I'm in XP, and happier than ever.

Bobby · « **Reply #148 on:** February 09, 2007, 09:56:06 PM »

See Rule #2

Mini D · « **Reply #149 on:** February 10, 2007, 02:02:19 AM »

Patriot is a word that has been misused for some time now. By more people than, I'm sure, you'd be willing to admit. Especially when it comes up in a thread about operating systems.

Republic,

I just purchased a new copy of XP last week when I built my new system. It was the same day Vista was released. There's no way I'd touch it right now. This is coming from someone that was a beta tester for Win95 and NT 4.0 and 5 (eventually Win2k) and even had some level of influence on WinXP's design (my ego leads me to believe). I'm done beta testing OS's and am going to stick with stability. There's simply nothing that Vista offers right now that I can't get more reliably from XP. Eventually, that will change and I'll have to make the move. I'm hoping things will be worked out when that happens. Until then, I'm thankfull that people are willing to take the plunge right now and take bullets for those of us relegated to the back lines.