Author Topic: Anybody Using Vista? (Read 9674 times)

mipoikel · « **Reply #180 on:** February 16, 2007, 04:51:41 PM »

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Originally posted by MrRiplEy[H]
I got an acute rash looking at those pictures.

Not only that, he's also using a D-link wireless device. Talk about masochism in the third degree!

D-Link is ok for home use. I wouldnt sell those for business use...

That thing has worked more than 2 years without problems, a router went broke when my wife dropped it from table...

They work, as we say here, Like a trains toilet.

Reschke · « **Reply #181 on:** February 17, 2007, 10:44:26 AM »

mipoikel,

Thanks for the information. That is a huge amount more than anything I have read or seen to date. I still haven't made up my mind but these upgrade coupons expire on March 15th so I have a little more time.

Skuzzy,

Thanks for looking and seeing what you could find out. I know where to come for all tech support NOT related to Vista. I may need to reup my Technet subscription also to get back in the groove.

Krusty · « **Reply #182 on:** February 21, 2007, 06:33:14 PM »

My mother just ordered a new laptop, and it got here today. Big surprise it's got Vista Home edition on it.

Well it comes with 1GB ram, but 200MB or so are allocated to the vid card (Radeon X1150 or something cheap), so it's got about 880 (even the BIOS says this when running RAM check during POST).

Anyways, Vista loads with 79 processes by default, when IDLING. When idle it's using 690+ MB of ram. Now, some of this is multiple iterations of Google stuff that Vista installs and runs by default.

Egads, no thank you!!

So, after a couple of hours, disabling services that aren't needed, uninstalling some crap, setting some options here and there, shutting down the damned user account control, and many MANY other steps....

I've got it down to a whopping "bare" 47 processes that idle using only 490MB of ram.

Out of 880.

We're probably going to ditch Vista and put XP on it as soon as we can afford another copy. For now we're going to test it.

My initial reaction was "damn this is slow" -- just populating windows takes a long time, getting the control panel to show up froze it up and it crashed-then-self-recovered on me. That really inspired confidence in me, as it was the first thing I'd tried to do in Vista, ever.

Anyways, it's sluggish in ordinary use compared to my rig, and it's a faster machine.

I also don't like the unecessary steps placed everywhere.

Example: You used to hit CTRL ALT DEL and get a task manager. Now you get a splash-screen menu where you have to click "task manager". Even some ordinary things that you used to access directly are now hidden within other pages. You have to click more to get any single task done.

I know this isn't really a bad or a good, but just from a user perspective it seems like they made it more complicated just for the halibut.

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #183 on:** February 21, 2007, 07:04:25 PM »

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Originally posted by Krusty
I've got it down to a whopping "bare" 47 processes that idle using only 490MB of ram.

Out of 880.

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Now correct me if I'm wrong but if I remember correctly Doesnt the Windows XP OS tend to use the same percentage of ram reguardless of how much ram you have?

I forget the exact percentages so for EXAMPLE ONLY Im going to say 1/2

So if you have 1 Gig or Ram Windows would use /1/2 a gig

2 Gigs of Ram Windows would use 1 Gig Etc etc

Wonder if Vista is the same way

Irwink! · « **Reply #184 on:** February 21, 2007, 08:08:59 PM »

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Originally posted by Krusty

Example: You used to hit CTRL ALT DEL and get a task manager. Now you get a splash-screen menu where you have to click "task manager".

CNTRL-ALT-DEL in XP didn't take you directly to taskmanager either. You get a menu in either one. The Vista menu just looks different but offers the exact same choices. Try CNTRL-SHIFT-ESC. Takes you directly to taskmanager, just like it does in XP.

Krusty · « **Reply #185 on:** February 21, 2007, 09:37:43 PM »

I've been using XP Pro since... forever!

I hit CTRL ALT DEL and I get the task manager. I'm doing it now!

EDIT: Will try CTRL SHFT ESC tho, didn't know about that one.

Krusty · « **Reply #186 on:** February 21, 2007, 09:39:49 PM »

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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Now correct me if I'm wrong but if I remember correctly Doesnt the Windows XP OS tend to use the same percentage of ram reguardless of how much ram you have?

I forget the exact percentages so for EXAMPLE ONLY Im going to say 1/2

So if you have 1 Gig or Ram Windows would use /1/2 a gig

2 Gigs of Ram Windows would use 1 Gig Etc etc

Wonder if Vista is the same way

I don't think so. I've got 1 GB installed and I bring up the Performance tab on my task manager and it says 245MB used (with IE and thunderbird open). This after a fresh reboot and just sending 1 e-mail.

EDIT: Wait, am I reading this wrong?

EDIT: I'm reading this wrong... You might be right, if I'm looking at my "physicak memory" area and it is about that. But I don't think it really uses that much. I'll defer to others though

Mini D · « **Reply #187 on:** February 21, 2007, 10:11:13 PM »

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Originally posted by Krusty
I've been using XP Pro since... forever!

I hit CTRL ALT DEL and I get the task manager. I'm doing it now!

EDIT: Will try CTRL SHFT ESC tho, didn't know about that one.

It depends on if you're logged on as a user or you're the only user.

Reschke · « **Reply #188 on:** February 21, 2007, 11:53:44 PM »

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Originally posted by Krusty
I've been using XP Pro since... forever!

I hit CTRL ALT DEL and I get the task manager. I'm doing it now!

EDIT: Will try CTRL SHFT ESC tho, didn't know about that one.

Same here I have never known that you could do it another way. BUT I am admin on every computer I use at home and work.

Krusty · « **Reply #189 on:** February 21, 2007, 11:54:55 PM »

Good point. Me too. Maybe if you have a "user" and not an "admin" user profile it'll bring up the NT box that has the buttons on it.

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #190 on:** February 22, 2007, 07:29:18 AM »

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Originally posted by Krusty
I don't think so. I've got 1 GB installed and I bring up the Performance tab on my task manager and it says 245MB used (with IE and thunderbird open). This after a fresh reboot and just sending 1 e-mail.

EDIT: Wait, am I reading this wrong?

EDIT: I'm reading this wrong... You might be right, if I'm looking at my "physicak memory" area and it is about that. But I don't think it really uses that much. I'll defer to others though

Remember though. I was using the "1/2" statement as an example only.
I forget what the actual percentage is and you cant really check without shutting down whatever other proccesses are running as well

but the basic idea is. The more ram you have. the more ram windows uses for itself

Irwink! · « **Reply #191 on:** February 22, 2007, 11:29:44 AM »

Here's something that really sucks for AH players in Vista if proven true. After searching high and low and finally posting a query on Technet, I finally received a respose from a forum moderator MS MVP person informing me that you can no longer create an alternate hardware profile with Vista on a desktop OS install. Laptops (Krusty can probably confirm this) more than likely have "docked" and "undocked" default profiles meaning you could at least reconfigure one of those for AH. Even so, what a biatch! Even if I were using a laptop I'd still want a third AH-specific profile.

I was also told that I might want to send a comment to MS in hope that they might release this feature in a service pack or hotfix. I would like to hear their rationale for dropping it in the first place.

Krusty · « **Reply #192 on:** February 22, 2007, 12:45:42 PM »

I haven't messed with hardware profiles. I don't recall seeing that screen in the system tabs, though.

I don't think it's there on laptops either.

Irwink! · « **Reply #193 on:** February 22, 2007, 12:50:31 PM »

The only place you'll see the hardware profiles is when you look into the individual properties and logons for each service.

Krusty · « **Reply #194 on:** February 22, 2007, 01:07:50 PM »

I thought you meant under the system tab on XP, where you go to "Hardware" tab, then "Hardware Profiles" (a button) down by the bottom?