Ok, you asked for it.
Originally posted by sonicboom970
uh, guys a suggestion, not to be mean, but DX10 more that makes up for any overhead vista uses up, it VERY optimised, leaving nearly all tasks to the video card rather than CPU
A. turn off the eyecandy,
B. D3D10 mainstream Graphics cards (8600, 8300,) are going to be avalible with the first D3D10 games,
C. there are about 8-10 D3D10 games to be introduced in the first half of the year,
D. eyecandy doesnt affect when u game unless you play your games minimized or somthing
There will be no games coming specifically for DX10 in the next year or so, unless MS has paid a lot of money to game developers to do so.
Games running on anything other than DX10 will suffer performance problems, under Vista. DX10 performance gains will not make up for overall bloat, which is Vista. No game will ever run better on Vista than it does on XP, given the same hardware.
Games which are not compiled to run DX10, under Vista, suffer even more performance loss, as MS made the decision to spoof DX7-9. Uner XP, a game compiled for DX9, ran the DX9 API natively. In Vista, the only native API is DX10. All other DX video API's are being emulated, which further constrains performance.
Why do this? It makes it easier for MS to support. A totaly different thought process is at work here. In the past, the DX team always considered performance to be the number one priority. Well, when MS lost thier DX9 architect, a new team took over. I guess they do not consider gaming a priority under Vista.
E. x64 edition is much more avalible, and is kept just as updated as x86 editions, unlike XP x64,
I have no idea where you get your information from, but there is an overall uproar on the Internet about the lack of drivers for 64bit Vista. There are fewer 64bit drivers for Vista than there was for 64bit XP. That is a fact.
F. has dual-core enhacements, it wont allow threads to be bounced from core- to core unlike XP,
Different threading mechanism which blocks dynamic allocation of CPU resources. It was a problem in XP as MS had no idea how to code it properly, so they decided to just lock applcations to one CPU. It is acutally a step backwards in thread design.
By the way, UNIX has run dynamic CPU resource management for over 10 years now without any issues. MS has a source code license to UNIX, but still cannot figure out to make it work, It is widely recognized, UNIS does threading better than anything MS has ever shipped.
G.If you run games, your computer can hanle it unless you just play hearts or somthing,
Or don't bother with Vista, which is a better solution.
H. It splits incoming internet badwidth between 2 cores/threads, better internet
That is called threading. And there are no performance gains to be had by splitting up a synchronous operations.
This is pure marketing speak (i.e. the application has to wait for the packet, no matter where it comes from and all the network packets travel in a serial stream).
I. D3D10
[/b]Which means diddly squat for 100% of the games available today. Let's say a couple of exclusive titles for DX10 did come out. Is any game worth doubling your hardware investment in order to play it at poorer performance levels than your current hardware will do when running XP?
Only somone with more money than sense would think so.
K. DirectX 10 CANNOT BE MADE FOR XP, IT REQUIERS THE VISTA ENGINE< GET OVER SAYING OH< WELL, THEY COULD MAKE IT FOR XP, its impossible, not even SP3 could do that.
Again, this is pure crap. MS made a marketing decision to not bring DX10 to XP. There is absolutely no techinical reason why they did this. None.
[n]L. if it needs a 2.6 GHz processor in DX9, it only needs a 2GHz or 2.2 GHZ in DX10[/b]
You have no idea what you are talking about here. There is absolutely nothing available on the market which will back up this statement you have made. Quite the opposite, as it stands right now.
it also makes sense to require DX9 cards, if you dont have one, you are probibly in 98 or somting. now, they should be able to do somthing with integrated, but they havent, that is one thing i dislike about it.
The requirement for a DX9 video card is only if you want to run the Aero interface.
You cannot stop Vista from coming, Ture, there will always be people who stay with 95, 98, 2000, and now XP, but how many gamers do you see using 98 and 2000? and 2000 was pretty much abandoned in 2003, 2 years after XP relase. plus ive seen old books on XP saying that the requierments were astoundingly high, and now it looks like childs play requierments.
I still run 2000. Many gamers who want proper multi-CPU support run Windows 2000. XP's thread management has always been pretty stupid. Windows 2000 is still better, in this regard. And windows 2000 still gets updates to this day from MS.
As to the rest of it. I do not need to read a book about it. I have lived it.
BTW im sure ppl said for 2000 going to XP,
oh it just looks better, ill never change to it, but look now, no games are made for 2000, and most games now (exept here) wont run on it.
Thais more BS. I play all the Unreal Tournament games under Windows 2000 just fine. I also have about 20 other games on my shelf I play.
P.S. dont bring up that stupid "oh, some games dont work on it now" excuse, YOU CANNOT DESIGN AN OS AROUND A 1000 PROGRAMS< IT is SOO MUCH EASIER TO DESIGN A 1000 PROGRAMS AROND AN OS
an OS has about 40Million lines of code, games somtimes really big ones have 3 million
sorry bout my bluntness, but i find it nessasary.
Vista breaks some very high end multi-media software. And MS did it intentionally in order to support DRM. Or more pointedly, they could not figure out how to make some things work, so they abandoned the API's used by those very high end packages.
Forgive my bluntness, but you have no idea what is going on here. Vista is all about making sure you cannot copy audio and video, if the manufacturer declares you cannot do so. That is a fact.
More impotantly. Vista brings nothing to the table which is beneficial to the end user. Quite the opposite actually. It brings more control to MS over your computer. That is also a fact.
Every claim you have made is pure marketing hype. Try to get in touch with the facts, as they paint a very different story of Vista.
