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Offline indy007

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« Reply #60 on: January 24, 2007, 09:27:14 AM »
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I also believe that, in addition to other cycles, that humanity is a major source of that warming.  We, as a species, *are* capable of alternating our environment, intentionally or unintentionally.  

* I see too much evidence that fits various models and theories that the world is growing warmer, and there will be consequences.


That wouldn't happen to be the same evidence & models that said we were going to have a far worse hurricane season in 2006 than we had in 2005.. was it?

That really didn't pan out.

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« Reply #61 on: January 24, 2007, 10:34:23 AM »
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"Those that argue that a single quiet season debunks the global warming hypothesis are as statistically challenged as those that argue that a single active season proves it," said Kerry Emanuel, a hurricane scientist at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology,

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« Reply #62 on: January 24, 2007, 10:43:55 AM »
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Wake me up when somebody makes an accurate weather prediction :)

Might take some work... we'll all probably be dead by then.

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« Reply #63 on: January 24, 2007, 11:00:41 AM »
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"We have to do something cause the frizzy headed guy said the sky is falling"  is not good enough.   Unless doing something is the research.   and... we are doing that.

environmentalism is the the back door into power for the socialists and it is mostly a scam... and a very cruel and dishonest one at that.

lazs


when looking up something for another thread on ethanol i found this about E85 ( E85 is fuel that is part ethanol,part gas), some cars already can use E85. But is against federal law (EPA) to change the fuel that the car was designed to originally use.

So, one part of the govt says to use more ethanol and another part of the govt (EPA) says you can't retrofit your car to use E85.

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« Reply #64 on: January 24, 2007, 01:04:47 PM »
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That wouldn't happen to be the same evidence & models that said we were going to have a far worse hurricane season in 2006 than we had in 2005.. was it?

That really didn't pan out.



2006 was a strong El Nino year (and there still is a strong El Nino, last I checked on it) .....which means strong equatorial winds sheer most developing hurricanes in the Atlantic.  No big surprise that 2006 was a quiet hurricane season.

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« Reply #65 on: January 24, 2007, 01:42:08 PM »
could El Nino be influenced by global greenhouse effect?
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« Reply #66 on: January 24, 2007, 01:47:31 PM »
El nino could be affected by a butterfly's wings in China.

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« Reply #67 on: January 24, 2007, 01:52:26 PM »
man, Ive heard that somewhere else before............was that a tom cruise movie?
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« Reply #68 on: January 24, 2007, 01:56:24 PM »
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man, Ive heard that somewhere else before............was that a tom cruise movie?


It's chaos theory, discovered in the 60's by a meteorologist.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterfly_effect

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« Reply #69 on: January 24, 2007, 02:07:03 PM »
THE SKY IS FALLING THE SKY IS FALLING,  RUN FOR YOUR LIFE!



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« Reply #70 on: January 24, 2007, 02:13:20 PM »
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Wake me up when somebody makes an accurate weather prediction


6 months from now the vast majority of Western Europe and the US will be warmer than they are now. I'll bet you a year's subscription ;)

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« Reply #71 on: January 24, 2007, 02:24:50 PM »
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6 months from now the vast majority of Western Europe and the US will be warmer than they are now. I'll bet you a year's subscription ;)


 :lol

We could use the warmth. Driving on ice was not nearly as fun as I thought it would be (minus the wrx sti parking lot joyrides).

To the point of the thread. Yeah, global warming is real... but I'll debate man's role in it. I don't think our impact is nearly as big as .. say.. al gore would want you to believe.

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« Reply #72 on: January 24, 2007, 02:31:16 PM »
ah tedbr... now I see...  the predicted horrific  hurricane season did not come about because the people who predicted it could not predict el nino?

What the hell can they predict?

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« Reply #73 on: January 24, 2007, 02:35:20 PM »
I predict that the democrat's attempt at fear mongering through environmental issues will not have the impact they hope it will.
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« Reply #74 on: January 24, 2007, 02:53:11 PM »
global warming...i remmeber old bill nye the science guy said..when mount saint helens erupted it put more carbon dioxcide than we could put out in a few hundred years or more...im not sure how much he new about it..lol..but a valcano proubly does put more carbon into the air than we can produce.

i dont believe in global warming...i believe in climate change..i think the ice caps melt off all the time threw the thousands of years...just look at the accounts by the vikings...greenland was a fertile land when they landed there..matter of fact they said the port were eric the red lived is nothing but ice now...but in the viking accounts it was a clear safe harbor...so at the time of the vikings it was alot warmer in arenas that are mostly ice right now..so did the vikings produce alot of greenhouse gasses back then?,,lol