Global Warming

[straffo]

Originally posted by Sabre
Kyoto is not what I'd call a little cost.  It's economic impact is world-wide and long-term.

I'm not speaking of Kyoto I'm speaking of what you as an individual can do.

john9001 what about using your feet instead of your car ?

[john9001]

Originally posted by straffo
I'm not speaking of Kyoto I'm speaking of what you as an individual can do.

john9001 what about using your feet instead of your car ?

i only put 2000 miles a year on my car. and i get 30mpg. the rest of the time i ride one of my bicycles.

[Angus]

Originally posted by GtoRA2
Has earth first put a church for your religion up on your island yet Angus? You would make a great preacher!

I call it sense of realism, not religion.
Some guys here would be great as colourblind, trying to deny the existence of colours....

[Mace2004]

Originally posted by Angus
I call it sense of realism, not religion.
Some guys here would be great as colourblind, trying to deny the existence of colours....

Globalwarmingists are exactly like a religion but without the hope.

Earth = God
Belief in global warming without proof = Faith
Global warming "models" = Theology
Global warming "deniers" = Blasphemers and heretics
Belief that meterologiest that "deny" should have their creditials taken away and be fired from their jobs, and banned from speaking = Excommunication
Belief that "deniers" should be shot = Burning at the stake
Oil companies = Satan
Belief that "deniers" are simply mouthpieces of the evil oil industry = Satan's pawns
A large number of hurricanes in one year = A miracle which validates your faith
Almost no hurricanes the next year = God doesn't have to prove his existance, it's a matter of faith
Belief that man's technology is the root of all evil = Taking a bite from the forbidden fruit of knowledge
Belief that the only path to salvation is through poverty = Vows of poverty

The only significant difference is that Global Warmingist's believe that once you're dead you're dead.  People of reliegion believe in the hope of afterlife.

There's one other difference when you think about it.  Notice none of these Globalwarmingists have taken a vow of silence?

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck then it's a duck.

[straffo]

Originally posted by john9001
i only put 2000 miles a year on my car. and i get 30mpg. the rest of the time i ride one of my bicycles.

That's good and you do a lot more than a lot of people !

[Jackal1]

OK.....since I`m back in the mix for a while, I will enlighten you with my vast knowledge of the universe.
There are billuuuuns and billuuuns of stars..........no wait....that`s Sagan`s line.

OK, there are two main factors that are the root problem and the main causes of global warming.
#1 The use of the name "Angus" and not raising certified Angus beef has angered the bovine Gods. They are seeking revenge for this blasphemous act.
#2 Angus is trying to raise cattle in a land of ice instead of the fricken huuuuuuuge state of Texas as intnended. This has angered the keeper of the key to Lonestar, a very,very powerful entity that even bovine Gods quake in the presence of. (This ain`t good hoss. )  The keeper has waved his magical wand,  a Nocona boot filled with entity type, magical,  flake stuff and deemed that Angus`s L`il Dawgies will spew forth mass quantities of methane laden cow farts until he sees the error of his ways........or until Mickey Dees start cooking lamb burgers.


There you have it. The straight skinny. Now go forth and correct these two things and all will be well.

[lazs2]

straffo... thank you for being honest.   If you see the trend stay or reverse you will admit that the scientists lied about man made global warming or at least...how much it does affect the earth.

They are right now predicting that... even with mans "contribution" that temperature will rise one degree in a century...   they can't predict next years weather but... there you have it...

I say that it may be one degree hotter in a century... it will probly be 2 degrees cooler one year before that or ten tho and in two centuries it will be just as it is today.

if there is something easy you can do to ease man made pollution then, as a moral person, you should do it.   driving is very subjective tho...  a person in a country unlike the US for instance has a different life... You couldn't take a frenchy here and tell him his house is here and his job is 30-100 miles away and expect him to walk or bike to work every day for instance.

I walk a lot to the store and such but I do it for the pleasure and the exercise.   I feel not the faintest bit of guilt when I do a 100' burnout in my 12 mpg hot rods all pumped up on octane booster tho...  I am willing to pay for that..  it is a drop in the bucket compared to the democrat and environmentalist whackjobs burning tons of jet fuel to fly around and meet.

I don't do air travel much.. it sucks for me.    Does that mean I can brand every person who travels for pleasure or BS political purposes as an anti environmentalist?

lazs

[straffo]

Finally you and me are in complete agreement :

if there is something easy you can do to ease man made pollution then, as a moral person, you should do it

I've 70 miles to do twice a day to go to work but living in a country where the public transportation is not too bad (there is still a lot of room for improvement) I use less energy than someone using a car...
But I'll be more than happy to to less (let say 5/10 miles) with a bike.
But still distance is not always the key factor around Paris I know people who daily have 2 hour commute time for less than 15km !
That's pure non sense !


In fact don't (and won't) judge you as I've no idea of how you behave (I've been proven wrong so many time I prefer not to make a mistake again )


I would buy a old American muscle car (I've the money to buy one or two)  not as a daily ride obviously if it wasn't so unreasonable where I live.

[Angus]

Lol, funny:
"#2 Angus is trying to raise cattle in a land of ice instead of the fricken huuuuuuuge state of Texas as intnended."
Angus comes from Scotland and is excellent at adapting to cool climate and rough pasture, typically grasslands. But the Texan's way of doing beef big and cheap is by first growing corn, then feeding in feed lot.
If I was a cow, I'd pick some other place.
(BTW, feeding cattle intensively on starch makes their farts worse for the globe) :D

[john9001]

todays news,.....upper new york state has six FEET of snow on the ground and expect 2 more feet, at one point the snow was falling at the rate of 5 inches per hour. NY officials blame global warming, bush and big oil.

now back to your regular scheduled program.

[storch]

angus,

 I thought icelanders utilized bovine flatulence as a fuel for heating water and generating electricity.

[lazs2]

straffo... it would depend on the health of the individual and the weather and a lot of other factors as to how he will commute.

My point is that everyone is willing to limit the actions of others so long as their personal ox is not being gored..

Everyone is willing to have the US pay for whatever nutjob science comes out "just in case"...  after all... it costs them nothing and it feeeeeeeeels so right.

lazs

[Angus]

Originally posted by john9001
todays news,.....upper new york state has six FEET of snow on the ground and expect 2 more feet, at one point the snow was falling at the rate of 5 inches per hour. NY officials blame global warming, bush and big oil.

now back to your regular scheduled program.

It's but a pinsalamander from the ancient Ice disappearing from the Polar area, that counting the wintertime.
Oh, I predict that your snow will be gone in the spring.
I also should have predicted that if it had been severe frosts instead, you would have posted anyway.

And, as for Storch, he's teasing. He knows we use mostly hydro powered electrics and thermal water sources for heating.
Sadly, those are not available to but few of the world in the generous way we get them.
And Wisely, - if oil was cheaper, we wouldn't use those sources......

[Airscrew]

Originally posted by Angus
Lol, funny:
"#2 Angus is trying to raise cattle in a land of ice instead of the fricken huuuuuuuge state of Texas as intnended."
Angus comes from Scotland and is excellent at adapting to cool climate and rough pasture, typically grasslands. But the Texan's way of doing beef big and cheap is by first growing corn, then feeding in feed lot.
If I was a cow, I'd pick some other place.
(BTW, feeding cattle intensively on starch makes their farts worse for the globe) :D

My grandfather raised Angus cattle and in later years experimented with Brangus (Angus and Brahman hybrid) all grass fed, the whole 200+ head of them

[Angus]

Brangus is an awesome cross for hotter climate.