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Offline Bronk

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« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2007, 10:26:24 AM »
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Hmm which part?

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« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2007, 10:31:27 AM »
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« Reply #17 on: January 28, 2007, 10:33:17 AM »
"But, It would be nice to hear what kind of things actually constituted "Slum Behaviour" and an "Unhealthy environment"."

This kind of thing is an inevitable consequence of the kind of people who play online flight simulators. It's like the difference between working somewhere where people are paid a bonus for good performance, and working for charity; the two environments attract a different kind of person.

Then you have to factor in the overwhelmingly male clientele. The game itself is driven by aggression - hunting, "saddling up", the overwhelming desire not to lose face. A lot of people here on these very boards would rather die than admit that they don't know the precise colour scheme of a certain subset of a Luftwaffe fighting group at a certain point in the war at a certain location. A bit of aggro is inevitable.

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« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2007, 10:45:25 AM »
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"slum behavior" when i hear that work i think of bombing dweebs killing TT's vh's killing gv's is fune'they will pop back up but bombing TT is as low as u can get besides taking TT bases like skyrock said.Every time i hear bombs near my tiger i start FREEKING OUT MAN :O

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You know, I was in the MW arena last night, in TT, and was getting spawn camped so bad, that it got pretty frustrating.  So I sunk down, and once I finally got up, started doing some camping myself.  Well, a pretty well known player decided to up Lancs, and come bomb the snot out of all of us.

I personally didn't think it was a big deal, it's just part of the game.  I wasn't mad at this guy, I actually joked with him about it on 200, because it's part of TT.  I personally don't bomb the guys in TT, but only because if I'm in an aircraft, I'd rather be dogfighting.

I'm just short of understanding as to why everyone gets so upset.  It's not like you have to drive for an hour to get back there.  Is it because you lose all of your kills?

I really think that it's threads like these that keep the people doing it.  This, and all of the griping on 200 about it.  

I've come to learn that there are people who do what they do, just to hear people complain about it, and as long as people complain, they'll keep doing it.

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« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2007, 10:46:24 AM »
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remember that the registered date is the date we all registered for the
1st time on these boards.

not how long we have been playing the game!!!!!!!!

i,ve been playing in the ma arena for over 2 years.

played in h2h for about a year before that.

yes, i,m still a noob, compared too alot of guys in here



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« Reply #20 on: January 28, 2007, 11:01:42 AM »
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"But, It would be nice to hear what kind of things actually constituted "Slum Behaviour" and an "Unhealthy environment"."

This kind of thing is an inevitable consequence of the kind of people who play online flight simulators. It's like the difference between working somewhere where people are paid a bonus for good performance, and working for charity; the two environments attract a different kind of person.

Then you have to factor in the overwhelmingly male clientele. The game itself is driven by aggression - hunting, "saddling up", the overwhelming desire not to lose face. A lot of people here on these very boards would rather die than admit that they don't know the precise colour scheme of a certain subset of a Luftwaffe fighting group at a certain point in the war at a certain location. A bit of aggro is inevitable.


I think you might have answered your own question.

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« Reply #21 on: January 28, 2007, 11:05:11 AM »
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The game itself is driven by aggression - hunting, "saddling up", the overwhelming desire not to lose face.
I would argue the contrary, that the sissified nature in the MA that predominates now is anything but aggressive.

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« Reply #22 on: January 28, 2007, 11:05:24 AM »
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You know, I was in the MW arena last night, in TT, and was getting spawn camped so bad, that it got pretty frustrating.  So I sunk down, and once I finally got up, started doing some camping myself.  Well, a pretty well known player decided to up Lancs, and come bomb the snot out of all of us.

I personally didn't think it was a big deal, it's just part of the game.  I wasn't mad at this guy, I actually joked with him about it on 200, because it's part of TT.  I personally don't bomb the guys in TT, but only because if I'm in an aircraft, I'd rather be dogfighting.

I'm just short of understanding as to why everyone gets so upset.  It's not like you have to drive for an hour to get back there.  Is it because you lose all of your kills?

I really think that it's threads like these that keep the people doing it.  This, and all of the griping on 200 about it.  

I've come to learn that there are people who do what they do, just to hear people complain about it, and as long as people complain, they'll keep doing it.


Simply put. Its all words out frustration.

Also i think making a deal out bombing campers or spawn points is really an effort to get the player to stop shutting down our Camping fun :)

So in short. I don't actually think they are doing wrong...i just want them to stop! :t

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« Reply #23 on: January 28, 2007, 11:36:37 AM »
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This kind of thing is an inevitable consequence of the kind of people who play online flight simulators.  


Actually, it's not. It is an inevitable consequence of the expansion of the game to include many people that do NOT play online flight simulators. Had a noob ask last night if this game was Death Match or Capture the Flag. There in lies the problem HT faces, expanding the customer base beyond simple folk that love the concept of simulated combat. The things people are talking about in this thread weren't a problem 4 or 5 years ago, because they weren't the norm. As the customer base expanded, they became the norm and that is what HT is trying to "fix".
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« Reply #24 on: January 28, 2007, 11:54:02 AM »
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Actually, it's not. It is an inevitable consequence of the expansion of the game to include many people that do NOT play online flight simulators. Had a noob ask last night if this game was Death Match or Capture the Flag. There in lies the problem HT faces, expanding the customer base beyond simple folk that love the concept of simulated combat. The things people are talking about in this thread weren't a problem 4 or 5 years ago, because they weren't the norm. As the customer base expanded, they became the norm and that is what HT is trying to "fix".


There once was a women that went to the doctor.
Women: Doctor, it hurts when i push here.
Doctor: Then don't push there.

The best way to remove the pain is to eliminate its cause.

Or you could try to train the brain to tell the finger to stop pushing there. (good luck with that) LOL

Ever try to stop rubbing that sore spot on your back?

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« Reply #25 on: January 28, 2007, 12:02:44 PM »
Weak analogy, since eliminating the cause of the "pain" would kill the patient. Of course, the patient was dying anyway, so, the choice becomes do nothing and let it die a slow death or try some alternative treatments to deal with it. Personally, I perfer the second.
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« Reply #26 on: January 28, 2007, 12:41:45 PM »
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Weak analogy, since eliminating the cause of the "pain" would kill the patient. Of course, the patient was dying anyway, so, the choice becomes do nothing and let it die a slow death or try some alternative treatments to deal with it. Personally, I perfer the second.


Cutting off a finger kills the patient? Poor surgen.:rolleyes:

"alternative treatments to deal with it. Personally, I perfer the second."
yeah...you and the rest of the pharmaceutical industry.
Not to mention the alternative method causes kidney failure.
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« Reply #27 on: January 28, 2007, 12:51:08 PM »
Sure seems to me that things have improved in terms of both game play and community.

It seems like each of the MAs is building it's own community with folks showing more respect for each other and the fights seem to be more even.  I've seen more 's back and forth then I ever have.  Folks are more apt to interact with each other decently, etc.

And frankly I'm getting to recognize and know more of the people I'm playing with and against.

Last I checked that's how you build an online community, which can only benefit the game overall.

It's still the example we set for the new folks and the effort we put into making the community better.



And if nothing else, HT seemed pretty clear when he said it wasn't going back to the way it was.
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« Reply #28 on: January 28, 2007, 01:12:47 PM »
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I would argue the contrary, that the sissified nature in the MA that predominates now is anything but aggressive.


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« Reply #29 on: January 28, 2007, 01:39:54 PM »
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Cutting off a finger kills the patient? Poor surgen.:rolleyes:

"alternative treatments to deal with it. Personally, I perfer the second."
yeah...you and the rest of the pharmaceutical industry.
Not to mention the alternative method causes kidney failure.


...and you would rather just ignore it and let the patient die. Yah...that makes a lot of sense.:eek:
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