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Offline Ongurth

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« on: February 06, 2007, 06:42:48 PM »
hello.

first of all, i would like to compliment the instructors here on their awesome training site.  I found AH II about a week ago, and since I haven't played a realistic flight sim in an loooooooooonnnnnnnngggggggggg gg time, I thought it would be prudent to read up on some techniques. I found the information on the training site to be VERY helpful, and I nailed six opponents on my second day with AH because of the training.


I'm still trying to figure out what plane I should go with.  I like the Corsairs (even though their NASTY to land), and I would like to ask your opinion as to what the strengths and weaknesses of the different models are.  I know that some of this information is on the training site, but unfortunately, I noticed that the Corsair F4U-1A isn't mentioned on there :(

So, my question is, how does the F4U-1A stack up against the other two baseline (F4U-1 and F4U-1D)  Corsairs?  I've noticed that the A1 suffers from massive acceleration issues (seemingly more so then the 1D), what other contrasts are there in them?

I know that the Corsairs probably aren't the best plane for a beginner like myself, lol, but I think I want to learn on it, so that I can give myself a good option for CV combat.

Thanks for your help,

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« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2007, 07:50:38 PM »
A lot of it has to do with personal preference. I suggest that you browse this F4U thread for details about the performance of the various Corsairs.

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« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2007, 08:16:53 PM »
I got one word for you.....Rudder.  

Rudder is king in the F4U no matter which model you fly.  Personnally, I'm likeing the 1A model and don't see that it should be particularly difficult for a new pilot.  The only two downsides to it that I see are the rear views (canopy has a metal extension over the pilot) and quite a bit of torque effect at slow speeds.  If you're real slow (and the F4U loves a real slow fight) use a bootful of right rudder and bring the throttle back when you want to roll right, if you don't and you're around 80mph you probably aren't going to the right.
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« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2007, 09:00:31 PM »
Thank you for the link, Widewing. I read it and it was very helpful.

Mace, thank you for the advice.  I adjusted my view so that I have a relatively high level of visibility (it's no mustang cockpit, but it definitely works). My biggest problem with the A1 is landing her.  She very much likes to slam to the right on me.  I've noticed that cutting the engine prior to landing, then letting her glide in helps with that, although it severely limits my recovery options, if I don't line her up just right.

Any tips for helping with that?

Thank you for your prompt, and helpful replies, sirs.

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« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2007, 09:31:07 PM »
Yeah, landing the Corsair can be bit of a problem.  The key is to get slow and stall her in for a solid 3 point landing.  Come across the end of the runway at about 100mph, chop your throttle and then just keep raising the nose a bit like you're trying to keep it 6 inches off the deck.   When you touch down keep the stick pulled back to lock the tailwheel and then ease on the brakes.  Not hard once you get the hang of it.
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« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2007, 10:15:38 PM »
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I got one word for you.....Rudder.  



You got one more that you should mention ...
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« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2007, 10:40:51 PM »
flaps?
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« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2007, 11:19:24 PM »
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You got one more that you should mention ...




I think the word you're looking for is "ME109K-4"

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« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2007, 11:45:00 PM »
109 k4?


might as well fly the la7 if you want a dweeb ride :p
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« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2007, 11:55:48 PM »
kill the eng (E key) as soon as it touches down , pull back on stick and its less likely to loop on ya when landing .
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« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2007, 12:58:30 AM »
Mace has it right. Fly the plane down to the deck...and I mean fly it don't come in and chop the throttle and expect a perfect landing every time. Just fly her on. Easing the stick back so you touch when she decides it's time to quit flying. Then stick strait back and ease the throttle off. Don't slam it to idle. Just ease her off and don't use much brakes. She will stop all by herself with little or no brakes once you idle her power. She will roll to a stop straight.

If you take the time to learn it right the first time you will never have a problem landing a Hog. If you don't then she'll snap at you when you least expect it. :)

Hope this helps.

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« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2007, 01:16:34 AM »
what  Ren & Mace said ^

if I am landing hot,  I will use flaps and slow it quickly with sideslip  easing the throttle, as it feels like it is about to fall out I raise a notch or 2 and FLARE it.....

it really doesn't take much runway and hardly any brake ( basically use brakes to keep her straight verses the locking the tail wheel , but that is a personal preference )

and I never cut the engine, what if you are being attacked and want to do a touch and go? the F4U will take off rather quickly and roll out of way when under 100 mph and 3 or 4 notches out........very easy to avoid one of them  500 mph jammed up controlled( compressing) vulchers.......:D
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« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2007, 02:57:36 AM »
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109 k4?


might as well fly the la7 if you want a dweeb ride :p



and what spitfire do you fly  :rofl :rofl :rofl
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« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2007, 03:55:39 AM »
all of them with equal deadly precision, although the mkV is the one i would cut my arm off to own in real life.

although i would wager my P47 would kill you faster than any spit if you would care to try your luck in the DA, you may fly a spitfire if you think that will help you win.


anyone still hung up on the performance of a spitfire does nothing but proove what a shoddy cartoon pilot they are, and one who hasnt evolved past the flat turn.....


im always happy to go and teach a newb like yourself how to easily kill a spit.

its up to you.
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« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2007, 04:03:55 AM »
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and what spitfire do you fly:rofl :rofl :rofl


    
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anyone still hung up on the performance of a spitfire does nothing but proove what a shoddy cartoon pilot they are



Please guys - wrong forum for this , the DA & OClub are ------------>that a way :)
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