Tim Hardaway and his love of gays

[BTW]

Originally posted by lazs2
so if they have different fingerprints then they are.... not identical.  

I say this because I have know identical twins and they are never identical.

I don't claim to know all the reasons someone is straight or gay but even you admit that at least a portion of it is hardwired into us.  

I think that a certain small percentage of us will always be hardwired to be homosexual.   We have to learn to tolerate it as best we can.  they don't need to be treated better than the rest of us tho.

lazs

Well genetically they are identical. They could have different hair cuts, a different number of limbs, and different tastes in music, but their DNA is exactly the same- as same as if they were cloned. I think in the context of this discussion ,i.e., the genetic component of sexuality, that's identical.

[FiLtH]

So a guy hates someone. Big deal.

    I hate the world.

   Bring it!

[Jackal1]

Originally posted by FiLtH
So a guy hates someone. Big deal.

    I hate the world.

   Bring it!

Do you buy the old bit that the world was this way naturaly or that a choice was made?

[lukster]

Originally posted by Kieran
C'mon. It's the Dixie Chicks all over. Or MG over at AGW. People have the right to say whatever dumb thing they want to say, but they also have the responsibility of facing the consequences whenever they do.

Anyone in the entertainment industry (and sports are entertainment) should understand what impact your words can have. More than that, anyone in the public eye should understand the media survives by shoveling dirt.

I don't think he'll be showered with Grammies for his negativity.

[lazs2]

btw.. if they have different fingerprints then they are different..  if they have different IQ's they are different.   maybe dna is not all there is to us?   to blindly say that it is the only thing that determines our physical makeup is very blind..  what happened to them when they were being formed in the womb?   why would one be more mechanicaly inclined than the other from birth or have a different IQ?  

As for why girl on girl action doesn't bother most of us (men)?  that is quite simple too... if we are empathetic... we put ourselves in the picture... there is nothing wrong for a hetro male to put himself in that picture.   win win for him.

the whole homophobe weirdness is simply not understanding our empathetic nature... by either side of the issue.. the homophobes cant explain why they hate to see gays and the gays cant understand why it disgusts the hetro.

It is natural behavior tho no matter what... it is natural for the gays to act on their impulses and it is natural for us to be disgusted when we witness it.

lazs

[storch]

well sure enough "tim hardaway's hand carwash" is no longer at the intersection of US1/Bird Road.  I guess tim doesn't get to hand rub the gay's cars any longer either.

[BTW]

Originally posted by lazs2
btw.. if they have different fingerprints then they are different..  if they have different IQ's they are different.   maybe dna is not all there is to us?   to blindly say that it is the only thing that determines our physical makeup is very blind..  what happened to them when they were being formed in the womb?   why would one be more mechanicaly inclined than the other from birth or have a different IQ?  
lazs

Yes, saying DNA is all that affects an individual would be ignorant of all the things that shape an individual including phenotype traits. That why I told Midnight Target he was wrong when he stated homosexuality was strictly genetic, like race. That's why I gave the example of identical twins. Identical twins are identical genetically. The miles and miles of DNA are exactly the same, every centimeter, every atom , exactly the same, unchanging, no nuances, but completely indistinguishable from the other. That's why I stated identical twins are genetically identical. They are. If on has a genetic heart defect, the other will have that same genetic heart defect. If one has any genetic disability or asset, the other will also have it. If sexual orientation was only genetic, both would have the same sexual orientation because there genes are identical.

Sexual orientation is not only genetic (like race) and that's why I brought up the twins. It wasn't to blindly state DNA was all there is to an individual. That type of thinking has led to atrocities in this world.

[lazs2]

ok... again... if dna is all that there is to our physical makeup... if there is nothing else...  how then do you explain the different fingerprints... and not just some of the time... all the time.

Does it not seem reasonable that if some genetic charactiristic... something that effects how we are formed, can give us different fingerprints (outside of dna) that there is also something that is genetic that determines how we are formed sexualy?

I tend to believe the homo's are homos from the womb.   They can't be "cured" any more than a hetro can be.

I believe that what you are talking about is the shallower but just as strong...  behavior.

I pass no judgement on right or wrong.. it is what it is... but gays don't hurt me any.   Child molesters do.   They can't be "cured" either but they are a real problem... not like some gay boogey man.   I don't have the energy to hate gays.

I hate socialist democrats a lot more than I hate gays.  

lazs

[Shaky]

Originally posted by lazs2
I pass no judgement on right or wrong.. it is what it is... but gays don't hurt me any.  

Anger at gay book for child, 5

Kids take back seat to gay agenda

Critics Slam 'Gay Agenda' in Public Schools

HOMOSEXUAL AGENDA ESCALATES IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS

[midnight Target]

Twin studies and Homosexuality

There seems to ba a link between genetics and homosexuality.

[BTW]

Originally posted by lazs2
ok... again... if dna is all that there is to our physical makeup... if there is nothing else...  how then do you explain the different fingerprints... and not just some of the time... all the time.

Does it not seem reasonable that if some genetic charactiristic... something that effects how we are formed, can give us different fingerprints (outside of dna) that there is also something that is genetic that determines how we are formed sexualy?

I tend to believe the homo's are homos from the womb.   They can't be "cured" any more than a hetro can be.

I believe that what you are talking about is the shallower but just as strong...  behavior.

I pass no judgement on right or wrong.. it is what it is... but gays don't hurt me any.   Child molesters do.   They can't be "cured" either but they are a real problem... not like some gay boogey man.   I don't have the energy to hate gays.

I hate socialist democrats a lot more than I hate gays.  

lazs

I explain why identical twins have different finger prints the same way I've explained it the last three times, that fingerprints are a phenotype trait. But I don't expect you to read that as you haven't read it the three previous times I posted it. I also don't expect you to quote me when you say I've claimed something different, because you can't.

And I never stated DNA was all there is to an individual's makeup. I stated we are a product of genetics, chemistry, and environment. But I don't expect you to read THAT as you haven't read it in the tree previous times I posted it. I also don't expect you to quote me when saying I said something else, because you can't.

I do fully expect you to use the word "homo" again and call me shallow.

[eskimo2]

I’ve never understood why so many folks care so much and get so angry over what other people do in their bedrooms.  I find homosexuality interesting, but I can’t imagine getting upset over it or feeling threatened by it.  Gays are.  So what?  

Just for the record, I think that homosexuality is usually genetic, but sometimes learned.  Some folks are wired to be gay no matter what; some are wired to be straight no matter what.  Then there’s a group in the middle who could swing either way depending on circumstances and society.

[lazs2]

btw.. LOL...  ok.. so now you say that dna may not be all there is to a persons genetics... something had to make em have different fingerprints.   different skin pigmentation.. you agree that there are slight differences in twins?

I am saying that you can't prove that being a homo isn't genetic.   You/we don't know enough.   You are welcome to your theory.   I am not even sure that we are able to find slight differences in dna at this point.

shaky... you are talking about political agendas not a sexual preference.  Gays do not threaten me... the agendas of some gay groups do.  Womanly democrat socialists threaten me more tho.

lazs

[storch]

I don't know about genetics, what I do know is that science has not been able to find the gay gene.  not for lack of trying either.  I don't understand how some people on the one hand demand scientific proof of God, then in the same breath express belief in darwinism and the gay gene.  I guess there is just no way to account for a person's religious preferrences.

I had a cousin now dead from complications of buttbopitis who was queer before I knew what queer was.  I think he was born that way.  I also know he decided to participate in a lifestyle that was abnormal and harmful to him, ultimately killing him.

gays are a sad lot.  I have no idea why they call themselves gay, unless it's used in the same way some people call the fat guy slim or the bald guy curly.

[Xargos]

What I resent are people telling me I have to accept certain lifestyles and they constantly shove it in my face and that I have no right to tell them to bug off.