Author Topic: Who is Ron Paul? (Read 12471 times)

bsdaddict · « **Reply #435 on:** January 04, 2008, 11:22:14 AM »

we'll see, only a few days till NH.

That is a nice rifle. I'm still happy with the decision to put of purchasing one till next year though. If/when the time comes to stock up asap, it'll be high on my list...

FrodeMk3 · « **Reply #436 on:** January 04, 2008, 11:48:48 AM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
frode.. you think ron paul can invent an alternative energy source?

He did about as well as I would expect given the fad nature and short attention span of Americans as a whole. I expect that he will do less and less well as it goes on.

Shame really but what ya gonna do? we got guys on this board who think that they aren't being taxed enough.. that we don't have enough government in our lives and that the best way to run anything is to have congress do it...

We got so called conservatives and constitutionalists who are giving up and just sitting home hoping the democrats don't take too many of their guns away. or.. more likely that they will be special somehow and get to keep a couple.

lazs

Actually, Lasz, we've already got alternative's out there. I would just hope that RP would make them politically feasible, by keeping the oil lobbies at bay so that an alternative could get it's infrastructure up and running.

I believe anymore, that the only reason the Iowa caucus' is so important, is that it's the first. There are other, larger, more populous states( That will swing the electoral college) that will really be the telling factor.

lazs2 · « **Reply #437 on:** January 04, 2008, 11:57:14 AM »

soooo.. you believe that there are alternatives out there that are feasable and that it is simply the oil companies stopping them from being sold to us that is the problem?

You don't really think that government can "force" alternatives without costing each and every one of us a bundle?

How would anyone "keep the oil companies at bay" in such a manner that we would all get a viable and cheap power source that is better and cheaper than oil?

lazs

FrodeMk3 · « **Reply #438 on:** January 04, 2008, 12:13:59 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
soooo.. you believe that there are alternatives out there that are feasable and that it is simply the oil companies stopping them from being sold to us that is the problem?

You don't really think that government can "force" alternatives without costing each and every one of us a bundle?

How would anyone "keep the oil companies at bay" in such a manner that we would all get a viable and cheap power source that is better and cheaper than oil?

lazs

Ethanol, Hydrogen, electric...Are all alternatives' that are being developed currently. However, lobbyist's for oil companies' work to preserve America's dependance on petroleum. Currently, the alternatives' aren't cheap...But then again, we aren't seriously trying to develop them, either. It will take a lot more investment to fully get these alternatives' to work. At the moment, the alternatives' only get enough funding to pay lip service to the requests' for them. The alternatives' won't be cheap, at first...But Oil sure as hell isn't gonna get cheaper, It's getting much more expensive. Pretty soon, the alternatives' will be cheaper, not because It came down to oil's level, but because Petroleum will have elevated itself above the alternative.

Oil company lobbyist's have a lot of sway in Washington...Like alot of other big business. We need politicians' that answer to the will of the people, not the will of the board of trustees'.

lazs2 · « **Reply #439 on:** January 04, 2008, 12:18:02 PM »

frode... that makes no sense. the oil companies aren't stopping anyone from research.

please define "investment" in terms that I can understand. like..who needs to "invest" and how much?

Is this like we need to invest in preventing "global climate change"?

lazs

john9001 · « **Reply #440 on:** January 04, 2008, 12:45:20 PM »

the oil companies are working on alternative fuels, they don't want to be left out.

bsdaddict · « **Reply #441 on:** January 04, 2008, 06:00:42 PM »

CNN on Paul's 10%

bongaroo · « **Reply #442 on:** January 04, 2008, 06:07:45 PM »

bsaddict, you make my self-assigned task of keeping up with the good doc much easier!

bsdaddict · « **Reply #443 on:** January 04, 2008, 06:17:53 PM »

glad to help...

FX1 · « **Reply #444 on:** January 04, 2008, 08:04:15 PM »

bsaddict thanks.. I went to a Realtors lunch in yesterday and the speaker endorsed Dr Paul. I was amazed and after talking to some of my counter parts it looks like the word is out...

bsdaddict · « **Reply #445 on:** January 04, 2008, 11:01:01 PM »

Dr. Paul was interviewed by Bill Moyers on PBS tonight... linky

and if you missed their earlier story on RP, it was just named NOW's #1 Show of 2007

Toad · « **Reply #446 on:** January 05, 2008, 09:30:50 AM »

He did better with Moyers than he did with Russert. Still needs to declutter and polish his message though.

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But I still, I have a transition program, just like I said about taking care of Social Security recipients, or money. You can - introduce competition. There's a lot of ways we can work our way out of it. Yeah, but that is basically it. So, you can everyone of those "nos" into a "yes." Yes. I'm for freedom. Yes, I am for sound money. Yes, I'm for free markets. And, yes, I'm for sensible foreign policy. I sure am for bringing the troops home, because I am against American empire. I'm for defending the country and having a strong national defense.

This is where he needs to work. Get a simple, specific pitch going in these areas and get the message out. I think he's going to have to use some $$$ on TV time like Perot did. He and his message need exposure.

lazs2 · « **Reply #447 on:** January 05, 2008, 09:40:37 AM »

It matters not. I will vote for him in the primaries even if I have to write him in but...

He isn't going to be running against hillary. I won't write him in when the real election happens.

Not that it matters.. I am in kalifornia so my vote is wasted.

lazs

Toad · « **Reply #448 on:** January 05, 2008, 09:56:08 AM »

I don't believe he'll be in the race in November.

However, the more exposure his ideas get, the more money he raises, the better he does in the various primary states the greater the chance that his ideas on liberty and freedom will force a bit of change in the US political wasteland.

We need someone putting the Constitution in front of the sheeple.

lazs2 · « **Reply #449 on:** January 05, 2008, 10:31:11 AM »

absolutely agree.. the more attention he gets the more the rest of the wet finger in the wind types will at least pretend to have his principles.

It was said of klinton that the best thing about him was his lack of spine.. that he formed his opinions based on poll numbers.

I think most politicians are this way and that a really good showing by paul will make them pay lip service to freedom.

lazs