Author Topic: Time to help the Me-410 (Read 11376 times)

Nilsen · « **Reply #45 on:** March 30, 2007, 04:12:53 PM »

huh? my bad. i thought it was the 30mm we have in the 190s. sorry

humble · « **Reply #46 on:** March 30, 2007, 04:16:37 PM »

410 will be a total hanger queen. All it will be is a big slow target...its almost 24,000 lbs with a 390 sqf wing area....so its wingloading is on the order of 55 lbs/sqf (after taking off 2200 lbs for ords)......better put a red cross emblem on the side....you'll need it:D

moot · « **Reply #47 on:** March 30, 2007, 04:19:18 PM »

Viking, I mean I understood it that way.

If the 410's flying is as bad as it was anecdoticaly, it really oughta get an MK103 loadout

If only there was a way to know if they'll model the AH 410 with it..

Humble - give it a MK103 and it will have earned the bullseye!

o/t - The LW really oughta had something like a 190D with just an MK103 in the nose.

Viking · « **Reply #48 on:** March 30, 2007, 04:36:12 PM »

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Originally posted by humble
410 will be a total hanger queen. All it will be is a big slow target...its almost 24,000 lbs with a 390 sqf wing area....so its wingloading is on the order of 55 lbs/sqf (after taking off 2200 lbs for ords)......better put a red cross emblem on the side....you'll need it:D

Your information is of the … usual quality (a word I find difficult to use in this context). The Me 410 had an empty weight of 13,000 lbs (6100 kg) and a max take-off weight of 23,480 lbs. In comparison the P-38L had an empty weight of 12,780 lbs and a max. take-off weight of 21,600 lbs.

The Me 410 had a wing area of 390 sq. feet.

The P-38L had a wing area of 327.5 sq. feet.

The Me 410 has more power and lower wing loading than the P-38L.

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Pyro · « **Reply #49 on:** March 30, 2007, 04:41:21 PM »

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Originally posted by Krusty
Why all the discussion of the BK5? It won't be added. The man himself has said as much.

Who said that? Give me a link.

Krusty · « **Reply #50 on:** March 30, 2007, 04:44:40 PM »

let me dig it up. From memory, it was Hitech, because he didn't want anybody to snipe bombers from outside their defensive gun range.

Karnak · « **Reply #51 on:** March 30, 2007, 04:52:27 PM »

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Originally posted by Pyro
Who said that? Give me a link.

I think it is an extrapolation of the idea that the 57mm Mollins gun isn't goin g to be added due to the sniping of bombers issue.

JAWS2003 · « **Reply #52 on:** March 30, 2007, 04:53:52 PM »

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Originally posted by Pyro
Who said that? Give me a link.

There's hope

Krusty · « **Reply #53 on:** March 30, 2007, 05:03:32 PM »

I found a few quotes in various threads.

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Originally posted by Tails
HTC has already said they will not add Tse Tse (Big-gun Mozzie), due to the possibility that it could snipe bombers from outside their gunrange.

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Originally posted by Karnak

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Originally posted by Tails
Actually, I think the reason quoted why we will never see the Tse Tse Fly, or a 50mm gun option for the Me-410 for that matter, is because they dont want anti-buff snipers.
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Both reasons in fact. Pyro said as much when I talked to him last month. The Tse Tse was something I was interested in.

So it wasn't Hitech, but Pyro, I guess.

EDIT: Link on the last one:
http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=163749&perpage=25&highlight=mollins&pagenumber=2

Viking · « **Reply #54 on:** March 30, 2007, 05:05:05 PM »

Strange then that he would be asking for clarification.

Krusty · « **Reply #55 on:** March 30, 2007, 05:06:07 PM »

I was just thinking that myself. (*shrug*)

JAWS2003 · « **Reply #56 on:** March 30, 2007, 05:40:31 PM »

I found a Me-410 handbuch on this site site some time ago.

http://detailsite.tripod.com/410/410framespage.htm

It has really nice drawings of the weapons and systems in the plane.

things like this:

moot · « **Reply #57 on:** March 30, 2007, 05:52:24 PM »

Perk the BK5 loadout!!

humble · « **Reply #58 on:** March 30, 2007, 06:44:28 PM »

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Originally posted by Viking
Your information is of the … usual quality (a word I find difficult to use in this context). The Me 410 had an empty weight of 13,000 lbs (6100 kg) and a max take-off weight of 23,480 lbs. In comparison the P-38L had an empty weight of 12,780 lbs and a max. take-off weight of 21,600 lbs.

The Me 410 had a wing area of 390 sq. feet.

The P-38L had a wing area of 327.5 sq. feet.

The Me 410 has more power and lower wing loading than the P-38L.

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And it only carries 2,200 lbs of ords and I have a max loading of 23,480...

so like I said once you get the ords off you have a wingloading of 55 lbs/sqf. All those 20mm shells I guess:)....as for the 38....well does the 410 have combat flaps?

your comparing an apple.....and a turnip. The 110 will fly circles around the 410...so will the mossie and the A-20. If the 38 didnt have combat flaps it would be a dog also....

JAWS2003 · « **Reply #59 on:** March 30, 2007, 06:47:59 PM »

The default two 20mm cannons have 350 rounds each.

That's a lot of ammo.