Author Topic: Time to help the Me-410 (Read 11495 times)

Ball · « **Reply #15 on:** March 30, 2007, 12:41:57 PM »

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Originally posted by Viking
Besides Hitech's conserns about sniping bombers being "unfair"

but bombers sniping fighters is?

JAWS2003 · « **Reply #16 on:** March 30, 2007, 12:47:22 PM »

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Originally posted by Viking
Besides Hitech's conserns about sniping bombers being "unfair", it would also be difficult to implement the telescopic sight that came with the gun.

Nothing is unfair in love and war.

And this is not about love.

Viking · « **Reply #17 on:** March 30, 2007, 12:57:28 PM »

No, this is a game.

Karnak · « **Reply #18 on:** March 30, 2007, 12:59:59 PM »

We won't get the BK5 on the Me410 just like we won't get the Mollins gun on the Mossie.

Nilsen · « **Reply #19 on:** March 30, 2007, 01:01:15 PM »

I was delighted to see the 410 has moved on to round 2

We wont get that big cannon, but i hope we can get some of those other juicy gun packs if the 410 is voted in

moot · « **Reply #20 on:** March 30, 2007, 01:13:51 PM »

People keep saying we can't get telescopic sights for remote guns, but what would the difference be with the F6 level bomb view?
All you need is to change the camera location to one aligned with the gun's aim, and place a sight in the way, as the cockpit and said F6 view already have.

I see how the 234 still not having one for its tailguns, but Pyro has refuted someone for saying it was not feasible.

JAWS2003 · « **Reply #21 on:** March 30, 2007, 01:14:22 PM »

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Originally posted by Viking
Besides Hitech's conserns about sniping bombers being "unfair", it would also be difficult to implement the telescopic sight that came with the gun.

I found this in one of Pyro's posts:

"B-25 – Cool plane, one of my favorites as a kid and another sentimental favorite for various reasons. Good for several variants and who wouldn’t want to fly a plane that has a 75mm cannon and 14 .50s?"

So why would he consider the 50mm gun on the Me-410 "unfair" while he talks about the 75mm gun on the B-25.

Viking · « **Reply #22 on:** March 30, 2007, 01:21:15 PM »

Of course it is feasible, but it will probably be difficult, or at least more difficult than it is worth. The F6 bomb view is the same on all bombers (I think) so it is probably a common module/sub-routine that all bombers call on, and not as easy as you think to turn into a level telescopic gun sight.

moot · « **Reply #23 on:** March 30, 2007, 01:34:37 PM »

Viking perhaps I've got the wrong idea of how the BK5 sight worked? The way I picture it, you look into a periscope with its aperture near the BK5 barrel.
F6 view is just a relocation of the game camera to just a view set against an aiming gunsight. How would the AH BK5 periscope differ from this?

Jaws, the BK5 would be a lot more efficient, considering its platform and ballistics.. although I do sort of agree.

Karnak · « **Reply #24 on:** March 30, 2007, 01:40:44 PM »

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Originally posted by JAWS2003
I found this in one of Pyro's posts:

"B-25 – Cool plane, one of my favorites as a kid and another sentimental favorite for various reasons. Good for several variants and who wouldn’t want to fly a plane that has a 75mm cannon and 14 .50s?"

So why would he consider the 50mm gun on the Me-410 "unfair" while he talks about the 75mm gun on the B-25.

Low velocity 75mm vs high velocity 50mm or 57mm.

Viking · « **Reply #25 on:** March 30, 2007, 01:40:54 PM »

It's not about the periscope or where your "eye" is. It's about programming and changing the code of an existing module (the bomb sight). It would probably be less problematic to just program a completely new function for the sight, say use a gunners station or a completely new key function. However, this is all academic as none of us know how the game code is organized.

Krusty · « **Reply #26 on:** March 30, 2007, 01:43:22 PM »

By the way, those line drawings show the 410 with 8x 20mm cannon, NOT 6x!!!!

See the small holes are the MGs, then there's two sets right below them, each one for an MG151/20. Then theres the two sticking out of the bottom of the bomb bay, and then there's the two in the ventral gunpod!

I don't care HOW poor it flies with that much weight, I'd try it at least a few times!

moot · « **Reply #27 on:** March 30, 2007, 01:48:47 PM »

Viking, as far as I can tell, it would function the same as moving to, say, a bomber gunner position, or the T34 top view.. the latter would only need a periscope sprite stuck in front of the camera's position to turn it into a gunsight for a gun that happened to be pointed that way.
In a plane such as a BK5-Me410, you'd just have to press that position's button/key to "look" into the BK5 aiming periscope.. or is there more functionality to the real BK5 sight?

Krusty · « **Reply #28 on:** March 30, 2007, 01:50:03 PM »

Why all the discussion of the BK5? It won't be added. The man himself has said as much. It's the other gun packages that would be so much fun!

JAWS2003 · « **Reply #29 on:** March 30, 2007, 02:00:24 PM »

In another game i use a Me262 version with Bk-5 cannon.
Is really hard to use efficiently. While it has good balistics, it has low rate of fire and big recoil. So you have to fire single shots and aim again.

In the case of Me-410 I would take the 2x30mm Mk103+2x20mm Mg151/20 any day.