Author Topic: Editorial... (or not) (Read 3683 times)

Lunger · « **Reply #75 on:** April 08, 2007, 01:36:34 PM »

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Originally posted by eskimo2
Yea, you’re right. We should have voted in a good plane!
We should have voted in the P-51. Oh wait, we already have that. Well, then we should have voted in the Me-109. Oh wait, we already have that. Well, then we should have voted in the A6M. Oh wait, we already have that. Well, then we should have voted in the F4U. Oh wait, we already have that. Well, then we should have voted in the Spitfire. Oh wait, we already have that. Well, then we should have voted in the B-17. Oh wait, we already have that. Well, then we should have voted in the FW-190. Oh wait, we already have that. Well, then we should have voted in the P-147. Oh wait, we already have that. Well, then we should have voted in the P-47. Oh wait, we already have that. Well, then we should have voted in the B-26. Oh wait, we already have that. Well, then we should have voted in the LA-7. Oh wait, we already have that. Well, then we should have voted in the Lancaster. Well, then we should have voted in the Yak-9. Oh wait, we already have that. Oh wait, we already have that. Well, then we should have voted in the P-38. Oh wait, we already have that. Well, then we should have voted in the Me-262. Oh wait, we already have that. Well, then we should have voted in the Hurricane. Oh wait, we already have that. Well, then we should have voted in the Ju-88. Oh wait, we already have that. Well, then we should have voted in the Typhoon. Oh wait, we already have that. We should have voted in the C 205. Well, then we should have voted in the A-20. Oh wait, we already have that. Well, then we should have voted in the SBD. Oh wait, we already have that. Well, then we should have voted in the N1K. Oh wait, we already have that. Well, then we should have voted in the LA-5. Oh wait, we already have that.

wow, i had no idea we had so many planes:O!!! but wait where was the ME410 on that long list of planes we already have

FrodeMk3 · « **Reply #76 on:** April 08, 2007, 01:40:42 PM »

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Originally posted by eskimo2
Yea, you’re right. We should have voted in a good plane!
We should have voted in the P-51. Oh wait, we already have that. Well, then we should have voted in the Me-109. Oh wait, we already have that. Well, then we should have voted in the A6M. Oh wait, we already have that. Well, then we should have voted in the F4U. Oh wait, we already have that. Well, then we should have voted in the Spitfire. Oh wait, we already have that. Well, then we should have voted in the B-17. Oh wait, we already have that. Well, then we should have voted in the FW-190. Oh wait, we already have that. Well, then we should have voted in the P-147. Oh wait, we already have that. Well, then we should have voted in the P-47. Oh wait, we already have that. Well, then we should have voted in the B-26. Oh wait, we already have that. Well, then we should have voted in the LA-7. Oh wait, we already have that. Well, then we should have voted in the Lancaster. Well, then we should have voted in the Yak-9. Oh wait, we already have that. Oh wait, we already have that. Well, then we should have voted in the P-38. Oh wait, we already have that. Well, then we should have voted in the Me-262. Oh wait, we already have that. Well, then we should have voted in the Hurricane. Oh wait, we already have that. Well, then we should have voted in the Ju-88. Oh wait, we already have that. Well, then we should have voted in the Typhoon. Oh wait, we already have that. We should have voted in the C 205. Well, then we should have voted in the A-20. Oh wait, we already have that. Well, then we should have voted in the SBD. Oh wait, we already have that. Well, then we should have voted in the N1K. Oh wait, we already have that. Well, then we should have voted in the LA-5. Oh wait, we already have that.
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What I wanna know is, what is the
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eskimo2 · « **Reply #77 on:** April 08, 2007, 01:54:35 PM »

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Originally posted by Lunger
wow, i had no idea we had so many planes:O!!! but wait where was the ME410 on that long list of planes we already have

So AH-II should always add the latest best performing aircraft regardless of how many were made or saw service? Planes that were produced in small numbers should be built before more prominent planes built in larger numbers simply because they are newer and “better” Is AH-II a WWII sim or a 1945 WWII sim?

eskimo2 · « **Reply #78 on:** April 08, 2007, 01:55:34 PM »

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Originally posted by eskimo2
Yea, you’re right. We should have voted in a good plane!
We should have voted in the P-51. Oh wait, we already have that. Well, then we should have voted in the Me-109. Oh wait, we already have that. Well, then we should have voted in the A6M. Oh wait, we already have that. Well, then we should have voted in the F4U. Oh wait, we already have that. Well, then we should have voted in the Spitfire. Oh wait, we already have that. Well, then we should have voted in the B-17. Oh wait, we already have that. Well, then we should have voted in the FW-190. Oh wait, we already have that. Well, then we should have voted in the P-147. Oh wait, we already have that. Well, then we should have voted in the P-47. Oh wait, we already have that. Well, then we should have voted in the B-26. Oh wait, we already have that. Well, then we should have voted in the LA-7. Oh wait, we already have that. Well, then we should have voted in the Lancaster. Well, then we should have voted in the Yak-9. Oh wait, we already have that. Oh wait, we already have that. Well, then we should have voted in the P-38. Oh wait, we already have that. Well, then we should have voted in the Me-262. Oh wait, we already have that. Well, then we should have voted in the Hurricane. Oh wait, we already have that. Well, then we should have voted in the Ju-88. Oh wait, we already have that. Well, then we should have voted in the Typhoon. Oh wait, we already have that. We should have voted in the C 205. Well, then we should have voted in the A-20. Oh wait, we already have that. Well, then we should have voted in the SBD. Oh wait, we already have that. Well, then we should have voted in the N1K. Oh wait, we already have that. Well, then we should have voted in the LA-5. Oh wait, we already have that.
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What I wanna know is, what is the
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You don’t have enough perks for it!

Lunger · « **Reply #79 on:** April 08, 2007, 02:13:25 PM »

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Originally posted by eskimo2
So AH-II should always add the latest best performing aircraft regardless of how many were made or saw service? Planes that were produced in small numbers should be built before more prominent planes built in larger numbers simply because they are newer and “better” Is AH-II a WWII sim or a 1945 WWII sim?

As far as I know WWII and 1945 WWII were indeed the same war. By all means correct me if I'm wrong. With reduards to newer/better vs mass produced/ lengthy service, both mean little to me. I'm looking for usefull!! The P39 will be useless to those who dont spend all night flying around looking for the odd A6M2 to engage.
If newer planes were the main priority then id fly P51D's and 262's and 190D's. The fact of the matter is I tend to shy awat from those newer planes.
I think most have lost sight of the debate and resorted to petty attempts to insult peoples intelligence . I'm not bagging on thoses that voted for the P39. I am simply saying I think we will all regret this waste of a vote.
I was personally hoping for a KI-44 or the Fiat, because we have quite enough US and German aircraft.

eskimo2 · « **Reply #80 on:** April 08, 2007, 02:16:10 PM »

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Originally posted by Lunger
Dont get me wrong, I enjoy early war planes. However the time frame it was used has no bearing in its calibur. I fly the P-40 more in the LWA more than most I know but that means little in the case of the P39. I'm not debating its ability in the war, I am debating its usefullness in the LWA. It will go the way of the Spit I.
The P39 will have a place in the EWA and the FSO. I just tend to agree with those who would liked to have seen a more usefull plane added to the game.

The Spit 1 is tough to get kills in while in the MA because it’s guns are so weak and have no range. Even if you get close the enemy can often accelerate out of range before you dump enough lead into him to kill him. Also, it often takes a long time to die, or bleed to death after being shot up by a Spit-1; someone is bound to steal your kill. Although the Aircobra’s 37 mm has poor ballistics, I’d take that single gun over the Spit-1’s wingfull of 303s. If you get hits, you will get kills. The Yak 9T has a single big gun with better ballistics and 32 rounds. I’ve gotten up to 7 kills in one sortie with just the big gun. Point blank the Aircobra’s 37 mm will be a killer. The P-39D also has 2X50s and the P-39Q has 4X50s. I don’t think anyone has to be sold on the effectiveness of 50 cals.

Hawco · « **Reply #81 on:** April 08, 2007, 02:21:33 PM »

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Lot's of guys like the challenge of taking and early-midwar bird into latewar and taking on the hotrods.

This 38G driver sure does anyway. Seems to me i see guys flying P40s in latewar, or 109Fs, Zekes or what have you.

Not everyone needs the latest and greatest to compete as their competition is in seeing how they can make the not so late and greatest perform against those uber birds.

And as MWL said, the 39 is a low alt performer where the AH war is fought at. Intercepting bombers at 20K isn't the P39s job. but racing around on the deck is.

Your so right, I cringe when I come across a 38G or an A5 etc in the LW arena, 9/10 times I end up back in the tower in around 5 mins lol.
There's some really good sticks that fly planes like the 38, too many to mention, but I can always tell as when you get up behind them they dissapear and the next thing you are in the tower.

Lunger · « **Reply #82 on:** April 08, 2007, 02:27:17 PM »

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Originally posted by eskimo2
Point blank the Aircobra’s 37 mm will be a killer. The P-39D also has 2X50s and the P-39Q has 4X50s. I don’t think anyone has to be sold on the effectiveness of 50 cals.

I dont doubt that getting infront of a 37mm is a bad idea anyday of the week. I question its ability to get to the fight. This is the same problem I have with my beloved P40. Depending on how HT models the turning radius and roll characteristics it may prove fatal for most P39s if they are done accurately

Captain Virgil Hilts · « **Reply #83 on:** April 08, 2007, 02:28:54 PM »

I won't regret a damned thing. I voted for the P-39, and I'll enjoy flying the P-39 if we get it. If we get the B-25 instead, I'll fly it as well, though I don't fly bombers that often. Damned if I'm not sick and tired of the pompous self anointed morons around here telling people what they will and won't enjoy flying. If you don't like the new plane we get, whatever it is, don't fly the damned thing. You won't have ANY LESS CHOICE than you had BEFORE it was added. Later, they might add a plane that YOU want. Then again, they may get sick of listening to you whine and throw a temper tantrum like a two year old that didn't get his sugar tit and decide not to add anything else. (Actually, HTC is far more adult than that, it's just a funny premise).

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Lunger · « **Reply #84 on:** April 08, 2007, 02:33:42 PM »

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Originally posted by Hawco
Your so right, I cringe when I come across a 38G or an A5 etc in the LW arena, 9/10 times I end up back in the tower in around 5 mins lol.
There's some really good sticks that fly planes like the 38, too many to mention, but I can always tell as when you get up behind them they dissapear and the next thing you are in the tower.

I agree with you, many of great pilots do fly the early plans and embarrass me in my spit 9. The unfortunate thing is the majority of pilots in the game (including me) are years away from being good enough to get anything out of the P39

Hawco · « **Reply #85 on:** April 08, 2007, 02:42:33 PM »

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Originally posted by Lunger
I agree with you, many of great pilots do fly the early plans and embarrass me in my spit 9. The unfortunate thing is the majority of pilots in the game (including me) are years away from being good enough to get anything out of the P39

LOL, know what you mean, I'm about 10 years from being anything like decent, but what the hell, I just fly around and have some fun getting lucky now and again. Think I actually got one of those pesky 38 drivers last week, was realy lucky, guy never saw me coming, even then I nearly mised him lol.
Cheers
Hawco

Lunger · « **Reply #86 on:** April 08, 2007, 02:44:54 PM »

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Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
Damned if I'm not sick and tired of the pompous self anointed morons around here telling people what they will and won't enjoy flying. If you don't like the new plane we get, whatever it is, don't fly the damned thing.

Damned if I'm not sick and tired of the pompous self anointed morons around here telling people what they should and should'nt post. If you don't like the new thread you are reading, whatever it is, don't read the damned thing.

Spiked · « **Reply #87 on:** April 08, 2007, 02:45:31 PM »

Can't figure out what the problem is still .... the game is getting a new plane - yay for the player base ... all of it. If HTC had just added the damn plane (ANY plane) like they added the Sherman then would there still be all the *****ing?

Note to HTC ... don't give yourself a headache next time .. just pick a plane out of a hat. Oh .. and thank you for adding more content .. I for one am very happy with whatever gets added.

Captain Virgil Hilts · « **Reply #88 on:** April 08, 2007, 02:56:06 PM »

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Originally posted by Lunger
Damned if I'm not sick and tired of the pompous self anointed morons around here telling people what they should and should'nt post. If you don't like the new thread you are reading, whatever it is, don't read the damned thing.

If you want to post stupid ill informed drivel, be prepared to back it up. Your declaration that the P-39, or the B-25 for that matter, would be unworthy as the next plane added to the game is without legitimate basis. The constant barrage of posts repeating the baseless position is a whining temper tantrum. Since you persist in filling the boards with the tantrum, be prepared for people to call you on it.

Lunger · « **Reply #89 on:** April 08, 2007, 02:59:24 PM »

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Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
If you want to post stupid ill informed drivel, be prepared to back it up. Your declaration that the P-39, or the B-25 for that matter, would be unworthy as the next plane added to the game is without legitimate basis. The constant barrage of posts repeating the baseless position is a whining temper tantrum. Since you persist in filling the boards with the tantrum, be prepared for people to call you on it.

talk about ill informed, your making my point for me!! Quote me please, when I said the B25 and the P39 were unworthy.

seems like someone has the market cornered on trantrums