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Offline Squibb

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« Reply #150 on: May 26, 2007, 09:23:47 AM »
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I'll deal with it by sending a .report or film to HTC every time I hear it. It's life, it's how it works, adapt to it, evolve, or just shut up and deal with it.

 I work in construction so I hear and see garbage every day. I can't stand it but I live with it to make a living for my family. But I will not allow it in my home. I try not to step on other people's toes and to respect their wishes. Why is it so hard for others to respect me in the fact that I don't want my daughter walking in to the room and hearing some one on range yelling a curse word? Our beliefs in what's acceptable or unacceptable might differ, and that's ok with me. I don't try to force mine on you so why force yours on me?


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Who's forcing anything on you?  You are on these boards, and flying in game under your own free will.  You have the choice of tuning certain chanels, enabling voice communications, enabling sound, etc etc.  If you so choose, you can ignore the chat in game.  

That's the beauty in this system.  If something bothers you, just switch it off.  I fail to see how anyone is forcing anything on your life when you're given nothing but the ability to micromanage your choices with aces high 2.

I can't .report you if i'm offended by your grammar, or your flying skills.  Why would you .report me for the word choices I use?  What offends you about the "f" word?  I mean does it really deep down cut your soul and hurt your feelings?  

Try this in your head, and try to be objective about it.  Say the word Rock, now say the F word.  If you didn't know the English language, would it be by definition a bad word?  If you can come on these boards and tell me why it hurts you so much to see/hear these words, and actually give me a logical response, I'll do my best to understand your logic.  

If it's religous reasons, I understand that too.  As far as I'm aware, jesus chirst and the good lord didn't speak English, and as many uses as the F word has as far as usage as a verb, noun, adjective, adverb, etc etc I highly doubt it was literally translated from anciet hebrew.

Words are words, some are more formal and appropriate to use in our language than others.  School, work, the home with small children, church, or public places amongst strangers.  This is a game, where we all come to throw our feet up, lay back and KILL each other.  Bloody Cockpits, splattering parachute shots, and thousands of rounds of ammo being thrown down range.  

As I said in my previous post, if it's too much, pull the plug or squelch.  If you .report a cuss word, just ask yourself if you'd like to be .reported for something someone doesn't like about you?  I find lots of things offensive, the difference is, I don't go and tell on people for it.  I was raised to turn the other cheek, to tell myself in my head "that's why I don't do that, because I'm better than that."  I was never told to run and tell, aka .report.

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« Reply #151 on: May 26, 2007, 10:37:12 AM »
I work in a grocery store and get to hear everything folks say when they come through the line with their kids.

Discrespectful words and ill-mannerd conduct are wrong.

Widespread and wrong.

If I had my way, vox would turn off, radio text be unoperable the moment someone let's fly.

Lots of folks would be affected.  Most would get the message and change their ways.

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« Reply #152 on: May 26, 2007, 11:41:56 AM »
listen man
we have kids who are 15 & up cussin and guy from vietnam or iraq that have gone throu war and are scared sh**less about what they saw. if you don't like the comments given there turn the radio down on the options screen
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« Reply #153 on: May 26, 2007, 11:59:11 AM »
Somethin was said about Bopboy being on the BOP's channel.. well this was a bad example, because if I'm not mistakin, Bopboy is PT's son, and PT has been a BOP for almost 8 years?  and BOPs havent changed in that time, so he knows exactly what's happening on the vox channel.

Again, what you are coming here and doing is completely out of whack. Now you're attacking your own "squaddies" but in the same line you wanna talk about WWII and honor and such. You think anyone in a squadron back then would go "Public" about anything in their ranks because they didn't like it? You are completely contradicting yourself, and making youself look really stooooooopid.

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« Reply #154 on: May 26, 2007, 07:30:17 PM »
I swear with the best of them around my biker buddies, but not in the game.  I don't like listening to it, but an occasional slip is bound to happen when the fight heats up. But guys let's keep it to a minimum.  We are all about the most realism possible in the game, so why not treat the radio with a little "FCC" respect to keep it real?  As for the kids: with the exception of a few good flyers who are pretty mature for their age and should be allowed to fly, a lot of them are obnoxious with their constant chatter and other kiddie traits that makes me log off early sometimes.  Why don't we take one of the new arenas that few people want to fly in and make it a nursery for these kids? Age restricted with some kind of requirement to pass before they can log in to an "adult" arena? I know I'm rambling, but summer months are not much fun squelching squeakers and swearers.

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« Reply #155 on: May 26, 2007, 08:33:27 PM »
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hey benny, i think you know my little, if at all, use of profanity online. I was certainly not of the attitude 'kids will hear it anyway so no morals are needed by anyone'.

YES they are going to hear it anyway, NO not from me, and YES at the end of the day kids need to learn.

we all did.


Yes, they will hear it.  The difference is, will children hear it once in a while and be reminded that it's vulgar and rude?  Or will they hear it daily from people whom they play with and look up to and hear it applauded and echoed?

Children are impressionable.  All humans are to some degree, but the particular degree to which children are susceptable is well-known.  If cursing is constantly portrayed as "the cool thing to do" then they're going to end up foul-mouthed - which, regardless of whether you think that's morally okay or not, it's going to have large negative social impacts upon their lives, and little or no positive effects.

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« Reply #156 on: May 26, 2007, 08:53:03 PM »
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Imagine being at a public place and using this language and street-vocabulary while kids are around.   This language by adults in the presence of children (under age 18) is a problem.

The written and spoken language on local chat and squad channel is both immature and inappropriate.

Our Birds of Prey are totally out of control.  Falcnwng is talking about sex and body parts and Dystve is saying the F word in every other sentence. Or the discussions/references on getting stoned or drunk.

Even on this chat forum, this clown Karaya (who I understand is an adult) is cursing and carrying on with most of the posts.

If you don't think this a problem, ask VansCrew or Allied how old they are, not to mention the even younger "squeakers".

In this age of the internet, you are being recorded and screen shots are taken.  I word to the wise..... clean it up gents.


If this is such a factor to " KIDS" then HTC should take the Stoli bottle out of the LA-7 like he took the Jack Daniels Bottle out of the F4U's.Wait a min. my bad kids drink Vodka all the time don't they.

I say bring back the Jack to the F4U's!!!!!!

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« Reply #157 on: May 26, 2007, 09:18:46 PM »
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And in this case the few is HiTech Creations.


Actually fuzeman, I haven't heard anybody from HT join the discussion about language or topic control on non-public vox channels.  So the visitor is attempting to apply his rules in HT's house.

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« Reply #158 on: May 26, 2007, 09:27:25 PM »
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Originally posted by PK1Mw
Somethin was said about Bopboy being on the BOP's channel.. well this was a bad example, because if I'm not mistakin, Bopboy is PT's son, and PT has been a BOP for almost 8 years?  and BOPs havent changed in that time, so he knows exactly what's happening on the vox channel.

Again, what you are coming here and doing is completely out of whack. Now you're attacking your own "squaddies" but in the same line you wanna talk about WWII and honor and such. You think anyone in a squadron back then would go "Public" about anything in their ranks because they didn't like it? You are completely contradicting yourself, and making youself look really stooooooopid.


No you are not mistaken PK, he is PT's son and PT been a bop much longer than 8 years but you provided the general background correctly.  Now if PT were to ask us to watch our language when BopBoy is online, I don't know of a single BOP that wouldn't comply and most do watch their language when they see he is on our channel.  The person who claims to be a squaddie has contradicted himself with his very clever (hehehe) shade account of "xbishsquaddie".  If he were an ex-bish then he couldn't be a squaddie as we have been cruicified in here many times because our squad/wings don't allow country jumping.  Oh crap, I just re-opened that can of worms...  Well anyways  PK1

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« Reply #159 on: May 26, 2007, 10:15:03 PM »
stiiiiiiil going :noid

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« Reply #160 on: May 26, 2007, 10:18:13 PM »
I think this photo sums up Kids in Aces High.





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« Reply #161 on: May 26, 2007, 11:28:58 PM »
This is a game. A very good one, but only a game.
Bad language is bad language. Conduct is a reflection
of yourself.
Be good to yourself.
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« Reply #162 on: May 27, 2007, 01:10:24 AM »
I think the point is valid.  Just because kids are exposed to it doesnt mean that its OK to contribute to it.  I dont know that i saw a single post that said it was ok to do this around children, but since everyone else did it, why does it matter?  

It does matter, a small amount of decency is a good thing and for people to deride those that are asking for it is sad.  I'm not going to pretend that AH will turn a good kid bad or that it will REALLY matter in the long run, but that still doesnt excuse it.  There are 3 types of people.  Those that dont realize they are being vulgar and will make an effort to stop, those that arent vulgar at all and those that are just plain vulgar and will exercise their right to free speach despite the fact that it is really disgusting.  

What squads do on their vox is up to them, they have control over the audience.  Whats said on local VOX or typed for all to see should be censored or censorable and it is.  We have options to report people that are abusing their VOX and text PRIVILIDGES, use them and use them a lot if you really want to affect change.

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« Reply #163 on: May 27, 2007, 01:36:23 AM »
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Actually fuzeman, I haven't heard anybody from HT join the discussion about language or topic control on non-public vox channels.  So the visitor is attempting to apply his rules in HT's house.

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They have expressed their opinion on this subject in other threads:
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The squad channel has always been complete open, because squads have ways of fixing any problems that would arise on there channel.


And I'll say it again, squad channel is "4 Squad" not a open channel some squad tunes to.
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« Reply #164 on: May 27, 2007, 03:09:48 AM »
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Originally posted by Benny Moore
Yes, they will hear it.  The difference is, will children hear it once in a while and be reminded that it's vulgar and rude?  Or will they hear it daily from people whom they play with and look up to and hear it applauded and echoed?

Children are impressionable.  All humans are to some degree, but the particular degree to which children are susceptable is well-known.  If cursing is constantly portrayed as "the cool thing to do" then they're going to end up foul-mouthed - which, regardless of whether you think that's morally okay or not, it's going to have large negative social impacts upon their lives, and little or no positive effects.



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