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Offline TwinBoom

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He 177 A-5 heavy bomber
« on: July 22, 2007, 10:52:01 AM »

 this 1 was captured

Specifications (He 177 A-5)
General characteristics
Crew: 5
Length: 22 m (72 ft 2 in)
Wingspan: 31,44 m (103 ft 1 in)
Height: 6,7 m (21 ft)
Wing area: 101.5 m² (1,092 ft²)
Empty weight: 16,800 kg (37,000 lb)
Loaded weight: 31,000 kg (68,340 lb)
Powerplant: 2× Daimler-Benz DB 610 (twin DB 605) 24-cylinder liquid-cooled inline engines, 2,950 hp (2,170 kW) each
Performance
Maximum speed: 565 km/h at 6,100 m (350 mph at 21,000 ft)
Combat radius: 1.540 km (960 mi)
Ferry range: 5,600 km (3,200 mi)
Service ceiling: 9,400 m (30,800 ft)
Wing loading: 319.9 kg/m² (65.6 lb/ft²)
Power/mass: 110 W/kg (0.067 hp/lb)
Armament
2 x 20 mm MG 151 cannon
3 x MG 131 machine gun
3 x MG 81 machine gun
up to 7,200 kg of bombs or two guided missiles Henschel Hs 293 or Fritz X
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Offline Bosco123

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« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2007, 11:06:26 AM »
hate to say this but we have the B25 on the way
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Offline tedrbr

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« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2007, 12:04:17 PM »
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Originally posted by Bosco123
hate to say this but we have the B25 on the way


I hate to say we have the B-25, of all things that we could have gotten, on the way as well.

He-177 would be a nice pick.  German heavy bomber.  Faster than a Lanc.  Carries more ord than a Lanc (depending on load outs chosen, we would not be getting guided munitions like the Fritz-X with it).  Might need a small perk cost to keep it's use reasonable and from sending the Lanc to the back of the hangar.  Buff drivers need a perk point sink other than the Arado anyways.

Besides, the He-177 was designed to dive bomb as well as level bomb.....(part of the reason it has so many design problems)..... give "dive buffers" a good platform to use in game.
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« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2007, 01:47:19 PM »
Heinkel should have done what Avro and Handley-Page did, switch from the two "massive engines that are each actually two smaller engines fused together" to four engines.

Like the Avro Manchester (Avro actually tried to make it work too, Handley-Page switched to four engines before the Halifax ever flew) the He177 was a disaster.

The Ju188A or Do217E would be much more appropriate additions as they were both capable aircraft that, well, worked.
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« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2007, 02:07:42 PM »
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Originally posted by Karnak
Heinkel should have done what Avro and Handley-Page did, switch from the two "massive engines that are each actually two smaller engines fused together" to four engines.
 


Heinkel actually tried.
Even back in November 1938 Heinkel made a proposal to build a few prototypes with four seperate engines (Jumo 211). This request was denied, as a four engined version would have been incapable of divebombing.
(Interestingly the 177 was not really used for divebombing operationally at all)

Heinkel pursued this project privately (He 177B). In 1943 he was allowed to continue work on a four-engied version, resulting in the He 277 which did fly in late 43.
To my knowledge, 8 He 277 were build in 1944

Another evolution of the 177 was the He 274, a high altitude bomber with a service ceiling around 45000 feet.The prototype was built by Famran in Suresnes but only completed after the war (then named AAS 01A)


(A small note: ALL 177 were actually four engied. The DB 610 of the seemingly twin engined versions was actually two DB 605 coupled at the propeller shaft, but basically still independent engines)
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Offline TwinBoom

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« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2007, 02:22:43 PM »
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hate to say this but we have the B25 on the way


b25 is a light american bomber....your point?
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« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2007, 03:29:46 PM »
Rather ugly plane...:huh
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« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2007, 09:11:07 PM »
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Originally posted by TwinBoom
b25 is a light american bomber....your point?


Apparently it is an uber-plane.... and Ben flew it.  All we need to know.
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« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2007, 09:13:39 PM »
That sucker's mean lookin'. I like!:aok
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« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2007, 09:18:21 PM »
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:cry :cry :cry :cry



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Offline OOZ662

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« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2007, 11:27:34 PM »
Looks like a gimped AR-234...

And Bronk, do you ever get tired of posting that over and over?
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Offline Wes14

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« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2007, 04:02:16 AM »
Weird looking plane....:confused:
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« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2007, 04:46:17 AM »
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Originally posted by OOZ662
Looks like a gimped AR-234...

And Bronk, do you ever get tired of posting that over and over?


I was thinking the same thing about ted.

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Offline Rino

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« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2007, 09:01:31 AM »
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Originally posted by Bronk
Bronk


     I have to go with Bronk on this one..every single stinking time the
B-25 gets mentioned he starts the waterworks.  Give it a rest already!
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« Reply #14 on: July 23, 2007, 01:28:59 PM »
I'm being stalked in the forums.
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