New H2H proposal.

[The Fugitive]

Originally posted by dedalos


Sure you can ask.  They are called season tickets.  They are good for a year

Ya and they charge how much for season tickets?

Orwell, your post have basically been nothing more than "bashing" of AH2. Maybe you hope that if you convince the right people that we have an inferior product here they will give you a deal on the price.

To those in the flight sim community AH2 is top of the liine. In this last post of your you said this is the place for you, so maybe you kn0w that this is a top of the line sim.

You have got to look at it from HTC point of view. Setting things up so H2H can open again is going to take time. There will be a bunch of new code that will have to be written to protect everything from what happened in H2H already. You know he will have to have paid subscriptions for two reasons... 1 hackers, and trouble makers aren't going to pay to cause trouble,.... 2 subscribers are REGISTERED, and they can be track easier.  

Now from the paid subscriber point of view, ANYTHING, and I mean ANYTHING that takes HTC away from updates in the MA whether its planes, maps, graphic tweaks, or take them away from Combat Tour really pisses most of them off. If you havn't notice a good number of folk are very loyal the HTC, and many have been waiting a long time for CT. All this H2H crap it messing with their fun, and as they ARE the paying subscribers, most feel they have a right to speak up.

[Masherbrum]

Originally posted by Orwell
Dude, this is the game for me. It has been for 9 months. You all seem to think I am a jerked off little 12 year old, so let me explain what kind of people H2H can cater to.

I'm 22 years old and am like 7 hours from having my private pilots license and I am joining the Canadian Airforce as a Direct Entry Officer after I finish university. I currently work dispatch for one of the largest helicopter companies in Canada (and soon a decent sized company even for the world). My dad was a pilot in the CAF for 22 years flying Kiowa's for the Army, SK-61's in the North Sea for the Navy, and CH-113's in a SAR role for the Air Force. I grew up around this stuff, and fully plan on being involved in it myself.

I also play tonnes of games. I have or am buying all the games listed above and have played every quality title since about 1996. I've played LOMAC, IL2-PF "Merged", MSFS since god knows when and MSCFS.

I know you guys don't care to read this little bio of myself, but hopefully it will illuminate you to the sorts of people who like AH2 and why they like AH2.

I played H2H because it was down and dirty fun. I was good at it too. I'd like to fight some of you although admittedly the limitations on fuel and ammo would initially out me at a disadvantage, but I think some of my "mentors" (the more serious of H2H hosts) will tell you I'm a quick study.

Maybe I'll try MA out for a while after I get my new credit card (lost the old one).

Anyway, I still contend that you MA guys judge H2H'ers far too swiftly, far too harshly and far too broadly. Moreover, I still think that you underestimate the virtue of H2H for the beginners and for those who don't wish to be burdened with a monthly charge.

Maybe I was wrong about Hitech making money hand over fist. I was frustrated and spoke too quickly. But from a financial standpoint, I think the benifits of a one time fee payment structure for a "H2H pass" could stand to greatly increase hitech's cash flow. Think of all the people who don't want to pay, but will pay a modest price for H2H. I think the potential here is quite worth looking at from HTC's point of view. If you think this conflicts with HTC's ability to offer MA first rate service, I'm sorry, but I think H2H is worth having in the terms that I have enumerated.

H2H went bye-bye because the "Freeloaders" were given to much rope.   They hung themselves.

[evenhaim]

sweet metaphore K

[reeb]

if this game is for you why not stop whimpering on the bbs and pay the 15$ and you will beable to play all you want. Or does the MA scare you?
you say you spend all this money on these other flight sims....which dont come close to AH....seems to be a waste of money you coulda been using to play here. It is sad that a few morons had to ruin the H2H but it happened and whining about it isnt gonna change anything.
ooohh and all this money you spent on the box flight sims adds up to what 200-300$? and they kept your intrest how long? 2-3 months at the most? seems more of a waste then 180$ for a year of AH which dosnt get boring like said boxed games.....and yes i have played most of them and yes they do suck compaired to AH. AH has kept alot of us playing for years so it seems to be the better deal then the boxed games. So insted of continuing to post pretty much the same thing over and over why not play these boxed games you have?.....owait i know why cuz they suck

[Orwell]

Originally posted by reeb
if this game is for you why not stop whimpering on the bbs and pay the 15$ and you will beable to play all you want. Or does the MA scare you?
you say you spend all this money on these other flight sims....which dont come close to AH....seems to be a waste of money you coulda been using to play here. It is sad that a few morons had to ruin the H2H but it happened and whining about it isnt gonna change anything.
ooohh and all this money you spent on the box flight sims adds up to what 200-300$? and they kept your intrest how long? 2-3 months at the most? seems more of a waste then 180$ for a year of AH which dosnt get boring like said boxed games.....and yes i have played most of them and yes they do suck compaired to AH. AH has kept alot of us playing for years so it seems to be the better deal then the boxed games. So insted of continuing to post pretty much the same thing over and over why not play these boxed games you have?.....owait i know why cuz they suck

I'm fighting the system brother. I want H2H back, free or a one time fee.

One-Two-Three-Four-I-Wanna-Play-H-2-H-Some-More

PWNT.

Anyway, I do apologize for ranting and raging about this, but it is something I feel strongly about.

Make no mistake, a lot of you guys have made interesting and valid points that have poked holes in my reasoning and otherwise made me reconsider somethings. Thanks for that. I just might end up eating my words and joining MA, my name is Orwell, so if you see me, take it easy, I'll be an MA n00b.

Oh yeah, are they bringing teh nook to teh MA? If so, I'm definitly going to join MA.

[reeb]

so you just want something for free? and 1 time fee...isnt gonna happen.

[Latrobe]

$15 is not a lot of money at all. I worked for my dad this summer vaction at his shop, and I didn't go every single day every week. Over the whole summer vacation (approx. between 70-90 days) I probly worked 12 days, each day earning around $30-$40. There you go, one day of work and you got 1 month of AH2! In fact it's 2 months worth! If you can't get a part-time job then do some odd chores. Get outside and do a few jobs around the neighborhood. Mow your neighbor's yard, trim their hedges, cut wood for them, baby sit, or just feed their pets while they're away! These are all easy jobs that you can get paid for. Rather than sitting at the computer posting on the BB how you don't have any money, go out and EARN the money. Seriously money does not grow on trees. I've looked and it doesn't. if you don't have a Credit card, do as I did. Ask your parents if you can use theirs but you will pay them the $15. If you don't then they take the game away until you can get the money.


work = money, money = game time, game time = good.

All you whining about how you're too lazy to do a few chores are like the commercials you see every day.

Joystick - $70
Aces high 2 - $15
Freeloader whining about being broke - priceless

[Easyscor]

H2H Arena Message:
The free 8-player feature of Aces High 2 has been discontinued.

Seems pretty clear to me, it was abused and now it's DEAD, at least as far as free play goes. The sad thing is some of the regular subscribers also liked it and you’ve killed it for us too. I'm still hoping H2H will come back as part of an AH2 subscription.

As for the rationalization attempts of some folks, I bet they don’t blink going to catch the latest movie and paying for popcorn and a soda, ~$20US for 2 hours entertainment.

[technical]

Originally posted by WaRLoCkL
BOY oh BOY, do u have a lot to learn, U just dont know the severity of ownage that is going to happen to u when u go to the MA, u boys are use to having tons of ammo and fuel do to settings changes in H2H.

U also do not understand the difference in skill lvl us MA boys have over u H2H, you are going to get OWNT so hard its not even funny, dont ever even speak of shooting someone down in here, until u actually make it to the MA

Right now u are like the little gold fish in a tank full of chinese fighting fish, U have no idea of the buttwhooping that is forthcomming to u.

Whenever my friend hosts his room, it's 2x ammo and .5 fuel burn, only BECAUSE we like to stay up for a while scorching the noobs.  after 10 kills we're ready for a new plane.  Remember, when you look back and see me, i'll be aiming for your engine.

[PanzerIV]

Originally posted by Masherbrum
H2H went bye-bye because the "Freeloaders" were given to much rope.   They hung themselves.

I am sure it was a conspiracy every person who could not pitch 14.95 a month into took part in!-

[Latrobe]

Originally posted by technical
Whenever my friend hosts his room, it's 2x ammo and .5 fuel burn, only BECAUSE we like to stay up for a while scorching the noobs.  after 10 kills we're ready for a new plane.  Remember, when you look back and see me, i'll be aiming for your engine.

Does this kid remember he's talking to WaRLoCkL?? Oh well, when he gets to the MA it'll just be another easy kill in the skies.

[PanzerIV]

My favorite settings are realism, I always ask for fuel burn to be up so in H2H otherwise it is just annoying.

[Shuffler]

Originally posted by Orwell
I'm fighting the system brother. I want H2H back, free or a one time fee.

One-Two-Three-Four-I-Wanna-Play-H-2-H-Some-More

PWNT.

Anyway, I do apologize for ranting and raging about this, but it is something I feel strongly about.

Make no mistake, a lot of you guys have made interesting and valid points that have poked holes in my reasoning and otherwise made me reconsider somethings. Thanks for that. I just might end up eating my words and joining MA, my name is Orwell, so if you see me, take it easy, I'll be an MA n00b.

Oh yeah, are they bringing teh nook to teh MA? If so, I'm definitly going to join MA.

LOL Orwell may turn out to be an ok fella. Come join the club.

You admitting mistakes puts you a few notches higher than I first figured.

[LYNX]

Originally posted by technical
Whenever my friend hosts his room, it's 2x ammo and .5 fuel burn, only BECAUSE we like to stay up for a while scorching the noobs.  after 10 kills we're ready for a new plane.  Remember, when you look back and see me, i'll be aiming for your engine.

ummm I predict your maximum landed kills with MA setting (1/2 your ammo load) will be 3.....if at all

[PanzerIV]

my max kills is 14 but thats with noob settings, my best with real settings is about 5 or 6.