Radar busting

[waystin2]

Thanks SCCA.

[Chalenge]

Originally posted by 68Boomer
It does say on the home page "WWII Combat Experience"...there was a lot more to WWII Combat Tactics than just furballing.

I dont think experience and tactics are the same thing and I dont think either one in this game is very similar to anything that happened in WWII. Operation of the planes finding the enemy and destroying radar (to name one) is all a lot easier in AH. I would like to see HT program a single player game and see how close he could get it.

[MajIssue]

Originally posted by Nilsen
funnyest thing ever is watching the bishrooks do their radar porking in doras... usually they end up ramming it but altleast they get that vital radar

That would have been us... We took out 7 nit RADARS is about 30 minutes all with doras 1 500kg bomb and a dozen tiny rockest! What fun!

1 FW 190 D:    zero perks
1 500 kg gravity bomb:   available if ord is up
12 teeeny weeeny rockets:  free
The Kinghts reaction when 7 RADARS go down in a half hour: Priceless
LMAO!!!!

[sethipus]

Those would have been F-8s.  Doras don't have a rocket option.

[Murdr]

Originally posted by Lumbergh
ok its only my first tour but this is a game, the object is to win by taking bases, disabling enemy radar is one part of a strategy to take bases. wth is wrong with that?
I might argue that making no attempt to take bases and move the game on while only furballing is "game interrrupting behavior" ...

If taking bases was the object of the game, the player that takes the most bases would be the top ranked player.  That is not the case.  The object is to simulate combat between WWII planes and vehicles.  Furballing promotes combat.  Fighting to win the map promotes combat.  Hitech has clearly stated both are valid forms of gameplay.

A note that I would add though is that many rules have been added to the game because the mindset that "winning the war" is the ultimate object of the game tends to surpress/avoid actual combat.  I cant think of a single rule that was made because furballers were not contributing to the gameplay environment that HT intended.

[thndregg]

Originally posted by Tiger
IStorch:  I'm proud of you, you almost let this post go an hour without bring up the BoPs.

I got a laugh out of this. Very astute observation. I predict that the same ol' song will play again soon.

[comet61]

Personally, on bombing missions I usually hit what may count concerning tatics. Hitting radar has it's purpose, that goes without saying. Porking radar might be a good learning "tool" in the "do's and don't's" and at the same time not really accomplishing anything for your side. When I first started playing, I porked radar alot with bombers. Then I began to realize that hitting VH or pot-holing airstrips, or killing fighter hangers on bases that are being used against my side is alot more fun.

By taking out VH or FH on neighboring enemy bases that are using it as their base of operations to capture one our bases does help your side. Taking out the radar first doesn't really help too much in that regard, but take out their VH capacity or fighters or go nose first killing their ack does. I am not saying killing radar isn't necessary, just not a high priority for me. Gotta hit 'em where it hurts. Flying a 30 minute mission across the map with B24's or B17's to hit radar or even hangers on bases that are idle just seems unfun to me and boring.

If others like hitting radar to knock them out on the front line, then it is OK by me. If others don't approve, that's OK too. Whatever floats one boat.

[storch]

Originally posted by The Fugitive
Not everyone believes in the "win the war" attitude.  I've been on a large squad that use to specialize in large missions, and taking bases defended or not. After a while, I found out the only thing that really matter to me in this game.....besides friends.... is the "fight" win or loose, if it a good fight, for me its a blast. As long as I have a base to up from and a bogie to fight, I'm happy.

While our buddy Storch seems to get a bit miffed at those that are bombing away his fun, I just look for fun else where. You go ahead and have your fun taking out radar or what ever, but don't get your panties in a wad when you call for help to take a base and us "fighter" type don't show up to help.

sometimes that is just not possible fugitive.  I wish it were though.  the obvious solution is a fighter town in every map. take the pizza map as a paradigm then create a bowl with 50k mountains with three bases at equidistant mesas at around 15k and a body of water at sea level with three sea level bases.  make these bases uncapturable.  that would immediately solve the problem those that want to furball would not need to bother or be bothered by anyone else.  the war winners are then free to avoid each other in their circle jerk to see who captures the mostest fastest.

[WaRLoCkL]

LOL 190A-8 with full fuel and send a couple guys to hit different bases and just keep moving up the line until death.

Works exeptionally well ive dropped up to 7 bases dar befor.

[storch]

thunderegg, a while back I read you sigline and it gave me a chuckle as well as making great sense to me.  I have started applying that principle when dealing with insurance agents, bureaucrats and certain members on this and other BBS's  if you will but read between the lines you will understand why I'm not responding to you and others like you.  thanks for the advice I have taken it to heart.

[Ack-Ack]

Originally posted by Tiger


Storch:  I'm proud of you, you almost let this post go an hour without bring up the BoPs.  Seems like you have some sort of facination with them.  Did you ask to join and they turned you away?  Do you envy them and wish you had a squad liek theirs?

Ankle envy.  There are no ankles in AH that Storchita won't try and hump.  


ack-ack

[Rich46yo]

Boy, theres never a lack of one who fails to disappoint around here. Its a game Pal. Radars are as legitimate targets as is anything else on the map.

                                      Its just a shame someone else is interfering in your game now isn't it? In fact your post is so condescending and moronic Im going to put you on ignore. To bad you didn't get the kill. Learn to look out your windows...........dweeb.

                                    Gee, i cant wait to get back into the game and play to benefit storch.

                                   I cant put him on ignore. This guys a moderator? God help us, and hes probably another resident internet psychologist as well eh?

Originally posted by storch
I take a dim view of porkers in general and an even dimmer view of dedicated radar porkers.

I like the opposing teams to have their radar.  I like them to see the red dot that represents me to be visible.  I like that feature because it provides the promise of a fight.  when I take off I do so in the hope of encountering another like minded player or three. I want to be found!!!!

what you like to do impedes what I like to do.  what I do has no impact on what you do hence the classic furballer/toolshedder schism.  I believe you should switch to bish, find a nice bish squad that likes what you like and fly with their horde.  I suggest the FoSGs they are just that way.  it should be a perfect fit for you.  a useless skwad dedicated to toolshedding and game interrrupting sociopathic behavior.  sadly this is the way the game is going.  the ack runners radar porkers toolshedders gangers spawn hanger campers and other limpwristed behavior has become the norm but it wasn't always this way.

yesterday afternoon I was cruising at 8k in a 190A-5 looking for a fight near a nit base.  some player (perhaps yourself?) with your mindset had porked all opposition team front line radar making finding a fight an arduous task.  finally a P47N bounces from the AKAKosphere!!!!  it takes me ten minutes to wear down his E advantage and somewhat level the playing field as I pull the hapless fellow into what was his final rope, from my blind side a friendly in an La-7 swoops in and kills the floundering P47 and over range tells me +CLEAR+ in a proud and confident voice.

the clueless countryman probably did what he expected he would need someone to do for him were the situation reversed.

that fight embodies my ardent desire to see killshooter eliminated.  if it were I would shoot your radar porking bombers and I would have shot down that boyscout helpful countryman too.

[Solar10]

Originally posted by Rich46yo
... I cant put him on ignore. This guys a moderator? ...

 

Storch is a moderator



I didn't believe it until I tried to put him on the ignore list.  

P.S.  I would never put him on ignore cause I need my laughs.

[Rich46yo]

Originally posted by Solar10
 

Storch is a moderator



I didn't believe it until I tried to put him on the ignore list.  

P.S.  I would never put him on ignore cause I need my laughs.

                     Actually it kinda breaks my heart there is a human being on the other end of his post that took the time to type out all that nonsense. I think storch needs to take an occasional walk around the block. Ya'know kid these are all cartoon targets we are shooting down, or, getting shot down in. You realize that dontcha?

                  Most of the folks Ive met in this community are really nice folks. But boy, we got a few who think they are Red Baron circa 1917 western front.

[Spikes]

AceJoe is the man for the job...

he used to run strato missions...

Get about 6 guys together in 17s, with 100lbs...climb up to 30K and pick dars one by one...with pony escorts sometimes